KK deep - weak turn play?

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Ok, this is not a good flop for you, but if you fold turn without having shown any strenght, you def have to 4bet.

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i agree there totally and should have preflop.

[Fazz86]

Isnt raising flop a priority if OP doesnt 4bet???

We need to define are hand.

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Isnt raising flop a priority if OOP doesnt 4bet???

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yes, please chk what happened---almost timed out due to slider problem and time alottment----so hit call quickly

[poker12]

what? i cant believe this thread. even if the guy is nit of nits we are still ahead of his range imo. get it in on the flop pleassseeeeeeee

[KingGordy]

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what? i cant believe this thread. even if the guy is nit of nits we are still ahead of his range imo. get it in on the flop pleassseeeeeeee

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stacking off on this flop for 250bb's vs. a nit is disgustingly bad.

[jfish]

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what? i cant believe this thread. even if the guy is nit of nits we are still ahead of his range imo. get it in on the flop pleassseeeeeeee

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a fair rr range is {TT+, AKs, AKo}. we dont really do that well v that range, esp v the range that gets it in on the flop 250 deep.

[Dazarath]

Even if I only called preflop (which I would not do), I would not raise the flop. I think it's good that you ran out of time and hit call. Are you trying to get value from hands like AQ/JJ? You might end up folding JJ correctly and just setting yourself up to get [censored] by QQ. I think the turn is close, but I think I like the fold. If I do call the turn, I'm not calling a sizable river bet. But honestly, it looks like he really likes he's hand.

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what? i cant believe this thread. even if the guy is nit of nits we are still ahead of his range imo. get it in on the flop pleassseeeeeeee

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a fair rr range is {TT+, AKs, AKo}. we dont really do that well v that range, esp v the range that gets it in on the flop 250 deep.

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J Well, this guy was so nitty that he never 3 bet from the blinds for as long as i have played with him (800 hands or so) so i didnt give him TT....plus when he fires flop and then fires almost pot on the turn, that tells me hes ready to stack off.

I just figured that once i got to the turn in this manner, now it was a fairly clear fold. Had i raised the flop 3x or so and he pushed i would have folded cause this guy cannot be given a combo draw here. He never pressed draws even in position ever.

The real reason for the thread is the villains total nittiness, aggro OOP preflop as well as a Queen high flop and strong turn bet indicating to me that in this isolated incident, i am crushed.

[Evigt_Drabbad]

this is fine imo