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Old 09-29-2006, 01:13 AM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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i bet the turn like 70% of the time. the way you got to the river, a fold is in order.

[/ QUOTE ]could describe an alternate scenario in which u would call the river bet?
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs. cts, draw + showdown value

I thought "what about c/r turn?" but quickly realized that was terrible.

I think I prefer betting the turn again here, because check/calling the turn lets an aggressive opponent manhandle you, and your hand really isnt strong enough to deal with that kind of pressure.

I don't think you'll be bluffraised here often on the turn, and if you are raised you can easily assess how good your odds are and make a decision from there. however, only clubs are clean outs, and not the boardpairing ones either.

It doesn't help that your hand is face up on the river, but you have to fold it.
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:08 AM
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is his hand really face up? the flop was pretty dry so couldn't he be slowplaying AA or something? especially if cts is vbetting light
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs. cts, draw + showdown value

cc or cr river
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:25 AM
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is his hand really face up? the flop was pretty dry so couldn't he be slowplaying AA or something? especially if cts is vbetting light

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I kinda doubt cts is value betting a one pair hand less than KK on this river. And definitely not for that much.
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:26 AM
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cc or cr river

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yea c/r river is kinda like suicide, but with chips.
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:36 AM
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cc or cr river

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yea c/r river is kinda like suicide, but with chips.

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cts bluffs every hand at 3/6nl
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:57 AM
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is his hand really face up? the flop was pretty dry so couldn't he be slowplaying AA or something? especially if cts is vbetting light

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I kinda doubt cts is value betting a one pair hand less than KK on this river. And definitely not for that much.

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if that's true this seems like a pretty easy call
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs. cts, draw + showdown value

People can still get my sn from the HH# but whatever, most people probably know it anyways.
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs. cts, draw + showdown value

I call river given how we got there, but against a habitual floater like CTS I bomb turn.
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