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Old 09-04-2007, 04:56 PM
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Bet the flop.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:57 PM
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Bet the flop.

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why?
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:05 PM
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Bet the flop.

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why?

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So you can 3-bet the best hand cause you're the best player.

On a serious note I would probably call down if it was 4 bet on the flop and expect to lose. I'm not good enough to fold this hand against this player.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:08 PM
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Sounds to me like CO is the best player in that game since he had a plan for this hand and you didn't. You can start by betting and then 3 betting your hand.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:13 PM
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Sounds to me like CO is the best player in that game since he had a plan for this hand and you didn't.

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this makes sense. i now get it: having a plan = being good.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:15 PM
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Bet the flop.

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why?

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So you can 3-bet the best hand cause you're the best player.

On a serious note I would probably call down if it was 4 bet on the flop and expect to lose. I'm not good enough to fold this hand against this player.

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so why not check/raise and call down if 3bet? that way you get to pinch the moron in the middle AND you show your hand down for 1sb less.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:57 PM
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i think its best to lead vs this villian as he will check behind more of time than your think. hopefully, he'll raise to try to get free cards. the raise MIGHT make sb laydown unimproved overs, and it's a easy 3bet from there. if he's got QQ+ i'm happy to pay him off.

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Old 09-04-2007, 06:39 PM
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Actually I thought about this hand overnight, and think cr'ing against a guy who hates your guts is really the best line. You'll get way more bets and he is way more prone to call you down with overcards putting in extra bets/trying to 'outplay' u, whereas leading into flop when you obviously demonstrated strgh he might just call and rarely 2bet.

safest line of course is bet/3bet. A bet/call then cr turn also looks very promising against a player of this nature.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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Bob I agree with you, having not 5 bet preflop I would always checkraise here.

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Old 09-04-2007, 07:43 PM
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Bob I agree with you, having not 5 bet preflop I would always checkraise here.

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Agreed. CO is always betting and relative position is near perfect.
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