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Old 08-23-2007, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: Is poker gambling?

poker is gambling. thread over.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:14 AM
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What makes poker a game of skill?

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The fact that the decisions you make has a real effect on your long term expected outcome.

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Close. However, by your definition of a skill game, all casino games are skill games too since there are varying degrees of -EV decisions that can lead to a steeper negative slope in the long term expected income (ie: playing roulette has a much lower return that playing slots).

A person can make +EV decisions in skill games, whereas in casino games a person simply makes decisions that are all -EV(or 0 EV) but to different degrees. Skill games put the players in situations with either +EV or -EV decisions available and it is up to the player to determine which decisions are +EV and which are -EV. Non-skill games don't offer this -- all decisions are -EV.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:17 AM
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What are ways to get around poker as gambling? (to make it NOT gambling)

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The only thing I could think of is giving players the amount of equity they have in a pot if they're all-in before the river.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:41 AM
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What are ways to get around poker as gambling? (to make it NOT gambling)


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Dont play for money.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:13 AM
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Poker is gambling.

The end.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:14 AM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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poker is gambling. thread over.

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I wish I read all the answers before I posted mine.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Is poker gambling?

We call them "donkaments" for a reason.

Also, as someone pointed out, just because poker is a game of skill doesn't mean it's not gambling. chess is 100% skill, but if you wager your money to someone else's you're also gambling.

Of course, you're also gambling every time you invest in the stock market or even drive to work.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:49 AM
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poker is gambling due to the fact that the best chance of winning hand doesnt always win
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:55 PM
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Walking outside without an umbrella is gambling.
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:03 PM
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i dont think so, your not playing against the house
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