borgata shufflers not accurately counting cards

[vikicht]

Chuck,
Was it at 10/20 game?

[punkass]

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staring at the shuffler waiting for it to finish after a quick blind steal.

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I absolutely cannot stand this. My gut feeling is that it happens in my room more than I'd like due to the questions I get occasionally when hand shuffling after a blind steal.
"Why are you doing that?" etc.

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I used to be annoyed when the dealer just waited, but I've noticed when the dealers shuffle up manually, it's pretty close to when the machine finishes too, so I find myself not being too annoyed anymore about this. Maybe saves 5-10 seconds.

[Mr. AtlanticCity]

I know this is a horrible newbie question that has probably been answered 74 times already, but why are auto-shufflers used in cash games but not for tournaments?

[SellingtheDrama]

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't - generally the Borg. wants either all tables to use shufflers in a MTT, or none.

So if they don't have enough functional machines, its none.

[Mr. AtlanticCity]

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Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't - generally the Borg. wants either all tables to use shufflers in a MTT, or none.

So if they don't have enough functional machines, its none.

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Thanks for the response. Didn't mean to hijack the thread, just one of those things that I didn't understand that bugged me.

[RR]

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staring at the shuffler waiting for it to finish after a quick blind steal.

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I absolutely cannot stand this. My gut feeling is that it happens in my room more than I'd like due to the questions I get occasionally when hand shuffling after a blind steal.
"Why are you doing that?" etc.

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I used to be annoyed when the dealer just waited, but I've noticed when the dealers shuffle up manually, it's pretty close to when the machine finishes too, so I find myself not being too annoyed anymore about this. Maybe saves 5-10 seconds.

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The dealer should not be sitting and waiting. It isn't that they finish about the same time the green light comes on it is if they hand shuffle they will have a deck ready for the next hand.

[SellingtheDrama]

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Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't - generally the Borg. wants either all tables to use shufflers in a MTT, or none.

So if they don't have enough functional machines, its none.

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Thanks for the response. Didn't mean to hijack the thread, just one of those things that I didn't understand that bugged me.

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yeah same here, so I asked one of the floors that I'm friendly with.

[pfapfap]

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The dealer should not be sitting and waiting. It isn't that they finish about the same time the green light comes on it is if they hand shuffle they will have a deck ready for the next hand.

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Agreed. On a tight mid-limit game, if the light goes on any time during the scramble, I'll finish shuffling by hand, as (a) I'll finish around the same time as it'd have taken me to open the machine and swap the decks, and (b) the hand is likely to be over before it's done shuffling again. I also try to do time collection after a hand that finishes before the shuffler's done. On a lower stakes game where the fast hands are a rarity, I'll sometimes sell chips or throw out missed blind buttons or something to give the machine an extra second, but I don't stall very much. I very rarely stop between hands to unjam the machine. I'll just shuffle up and deal and fix it while the players are acting. Time is money, after all, and it's in my best interest to get out as many hands as quickly and cleanly as possible. More hands and better action that way.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

I do the same thing, I un-jam the machine during the next hand, instead of between hands (thus stalling the game). All dealers should be able to un-jam the machine without dropping the deck in use, and without letting the action stall.

[SyrialKilla]

I think there is a shufflemaster conspiracy. They have an absolute monopoly on the shuffle machines in Atlantic City and THEY SUCK at maintainance! Even if you have someone out once a week we still have three or four machines down by their next visit. Its just rediculous. The casinos pay money for those machines so they can get more hands out. The players want more hands because time is valuable to anyone. I think someone should start up a new shuffle company and get it kicked off in AC!