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With KJ on the board, what hand that you beat is he going to keep pounding with? Not TT or AQ. The pf cap clinches it -- AK or premium pockets.
I also fold pf. |
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Just wanna add that PF is more complicated than just a stove
If Co caps hero needs 30% eq If Co calls hero needs 22.2% eq. However hero has quite a lot of reverse implied folding eq here. Consider eg when SB has 66 and CO has 89 and flop comes AA2. SB c-bets hero folds a bunch of eq. Good implied odds tho with a hand that plays well 3-handed |
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fwiw I fold preflop too. As played I also fold the rivah.
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Not an easy call IMO. Put the TAG OTB and its easy. I still call here. @ Shane Those stoves are way way of. TAGs and LAGTAGs in the 5/10 on stars dont defend SB with 99+, AJs+, AQo+. equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 32.429% 30.93% 01.50% 28359229382 1377867864.33 { 22+, A2s+, K5s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A5o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo } Hand 1: 38.615% 37.14% 01.48% 34053005853 1357120885.83 { 55+, A6s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, A9o+, KTo+, QJo } Hand 2: 28.956% 27.88% 01.08% 25566032328 986074024.83 { JcTc } @ Apanage On the contrary. You have great relative position to protect your hand when you flop good. TAG OTB is folding quite a lot when you face him with 2 bets buying you the button. [/ QUOTE ] On the other hand the TAG:s range preflop is not that wide. I have to respect your opinion since this is a 10/20 hand and I donīt play above 5/10. I would have never consider cold calling two preflop. But that is maybe just a sign of my weak tight play and a proof of my variance hate. |
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The ranges I used are on the loose side. Mostly to illustrate another scenario compared to Shanes which were unrealistically tight IMO
This is another spot where TAGs fold too much IMO |
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I don't think he has - nor takes this line with - TT or AQ often enough to call here and AT or pocket pair <= 88 are even more unlikely. Fold. Then again the pot is so big that I think we cannot be too confident when folding. This is way above the level I play so maybe I'm being a weakling here. |
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I fold here. I think the rivers a fold vs pretty much anyone, we have to discount worse hands a ton when he bets into 2 on the turn (AQ or TT) and value bets the river here (TT discounted again plus you have a T).
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If action goes like this, but CO doesnt cap pf, is this still a fold?
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I was actually CO in this hand, and it is the same hand I posted earlier where I barreled off with AQ:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=2#Post13134311 I put a large part of BB's range as pair + straight draw, and it seemed reasonable, given the size of the pot, that he could find a fold often enough for my river bet to be good. Your responses in this thread seem to confirm that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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I was actually CO in this hand, and it is the same hand I posted earlier where I barreled off with AQ: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=2#Post13134311 I put a large part of BB's range as pair + straight draw, and it seemed reasonable, given the size of the pot, that he could find a fold often enough for my river bet to be good. Your responses in this thread seem to confirm that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] So basically people have told you to not barrel of in the AQ hand cuz no one folds a pair and to fold in the JT hand cuz no one 3-barrels AQ... I am so glad I voted for calling [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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