San Jose: more tables and No Limit action in 2008? - Page 2

swope · #1 11-05-2007, 05:44 PM

That GC is still in business at all is entirely due to the city of San Jose wishing it so. GC has had financial troubles for at least a decade, the most public of which are the ongoing efforts of the landlords to shut it down due to problems with rent not getting covered.

I cannot imagine anyone protesting more tables getting added at GC. It solves many problems while creating none.

Re: true NL games killing the 20/40 and 40/80 LHE games, I was about to say I couldnt imagine it impacting it much because gamboolers love to gambool, not go broke in one hand. Then I remembered that the Big Game at Lucky Chances basically shut down the 9/18 LHE kill game there... so Im not sure what to think on that one.

J.A.Sucker · #2 11-05-2007, 06:24 PM

What makes you think there's anything remotely close to sane with regard to San Jose city politics? ... and that's exactly what all this is about. That said, I'll shake some trees and see what I can find out.

Coelacanth · #3 11-08-2007, 03:27 AM

I talked to Mike and another red badge (Mark?) tonight. They said negotiations with the city will resume Dec. 11. They're trying to get unrestricted back line betting, the ability to stay open 24 hours, 9 new tables, and NLHE. They seem to think that Garden City may hold up the process, since GC doesn't really want Bay 101 to get more tables. They didn't really state much of an opinion on how likely any of this is to go through, though.

Christmas Steve · #4 11-06-2007, 09:32 AM

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Re: true NL games killing the 20/40 and 40/80 LHE games, I was about to say I couldnt imagine it impacting it much because gamboolers love to gambool, not go broke in one hand. Then I remembered that the Big Game at Lucky Chances basically shut down the 9/18 LHE kill game there... so Im not sure what to think on that one.

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I didn't started playing at Lucky Chances till after the 2/3/5 and 10/10/20 spread & No Limit games came in, but from what everyone tells me, I agree that that's what killed the 9/18 and 20/40 limit holdem games. Every now and then I tell the board to put me up on the 9/18, but it seems like the board operator doesn't even want to bother writing it down. As I hate Artichoke Joe's, I would rather play 9/18 at Lucky Chances than the 15/30 at AJ's. It beats driving down to SJ, or going over the bridge to the Oaks...but the 9/18 at Lucky's seems like a thing of the past now.

swope · #5 11-06-2007, 08:46 PM

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Re: true NL games killing the 20/40 and 40/80 LHE games, I was about to say I couldnt imagine it impacting it much because gamboolers love to gambool, not go broke in one hand. Then I remembered that the Big Game at Lucky Chances basically shut down the 9/18 LHE kill game there... so Im not sure what to think on that one.

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I didn't started playing at Lucky Chances till after the 2/3/5 and 10/10/20 spread & No Limit games came in, but from what everyone tells me, I agree that that's what killed the 9/18 and 20/40 limit holdem games. Every now and then I tell the board to put me up on the 9/18, but it seems like the board operator doesn't even want to bother writing it down. As I hate Artichoke Joe's, I would rather play 9/18 at Lucky Chances than the 15/30 at AJ's. It beats driving down to SJ, or going over the bridge to the Oaks...but the 9/18 at Lucky's seems like a thing of the past now.

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i have also made a point of getting 9/18 on the board everytime i played there. after a few months of this, mae finally admitted that they simply do not spread it any more, and put it on the board simply as a courtesy.

and i agree completely with your feelings about AJs.

tonight im going to play the 15/30 at oaks for the first time. i sincerely hope its a decent game, ive heard good things about it. otherwise im back to the 1 hour drives to GC, although i hear there is a 10/20 in sacramento that i could actually imagine making the trip out to play if its live enough..

spino1i · #6 11-10-2007, 11:56 PM

Wow im really excited for this... I really hope they get a consistent 10/20 NL game going

Torello · #7 11-11-2007, 03:12 AM

Wow, I sure hope you guys aren't getting my hopes up for nothing. This could be HUGE.

p4594spa · #8 11-12-2007, 04:21 PM

I talked to Mike, the shift manager on Friday nights. The issues to changing are as follows:
1) WHile Bay 101 has plenty of room to add tables, Garden City doesn't have the room. So he thinks they will fail in their quest to add 9 tables;
2) Bay 101 doesn't really want to have no limit. They feel it will kill all their 8-16, 20-40, 40-80, and 100-200 tables, like it did at some of the other Bay Area Casino's that added no limit. (Lucky Chances is a prime example, I think).

Personally, I would love to see the additional tables because Fri-Sat-Sun, the waits are horrendous. I would also love to see the 8-16 tables moved to 10-20, so we wouldn't have to use all the damn $2 chips on the big bets...but that won't happen as Bay 101 thinks the players like having those huge stacks of chips. That is why they $5 chips on the 20-40 games rather than $10 chips...

mikeca · #9 11-12-2007, 05:16 PM

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1) WHile Bay 101 has plenty of room to add tables, Garden City doesn't have the room. So he thinks they will fail in their quest to add 9 tables;

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This does not make sense. Garden City ripped out the restaurant in front and has lots of room to add more tables there, if they can use that space. It has been just sitting there vacant for months. Many months ago I heard rumors that they were going to move the Asian games there, but apparently the city of San Jose blocked that. They ripped out some offices on the mezzanine around the main floor and moved some of the Asian games there. They then moved the tables on the side mezzanine onto the main floor. They now have a huge waiting area on the side mezzanine.

There might be some question as to whether Garden City wants nine more tables or wants Bay 101 to have nine more tables. Garden City may be afraid that shorter lists at Bay 101 will hurt their business.

p4594spa · #10 11-12-2007, 07:11 PM

Mike mentioned that all poker games had to be on one level of building. Though this didn't quite make sense to me, because at one time Garden City had poker on main floor and mezzanine.

At any rate, everything having to do with San Jose laws and their enforcement as it relates to actual practice seems very mysterious.
As best I can tell, the new mayor is not hostile to gambling like the previous one have been...