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Old 10-13-2007, 04:38 AM
chrismystero chrismystero is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

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call as played, but i would probably just fold preflop.

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Old 10-13-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

Ok, are you guys folding AJs in UTG+1 at all buy-ins/turbos? Btw, this is my minimum opening hand in this spot (as advocated by Harrington). What hands are you raising from UTG+1 in lvl I? Are you limping anything?
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:37 PM
diditmyway diditmyway is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

Limp all pp's and call raises if you get the proper implied odds.
LP you can openraise hands like AJs+,KQs+ etc but I doubt you miss any edge from folding those either.
in Sb i tend to complete if i get a nice odds, but i play the flop very cautious after and check/fold anything worse than 2 pairs.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

Limping preflop is fine.
Flop is a really crappy set. Most sets are discounted so I guess he has AQ KT QJ or some sort of combo draw I guess I get it in.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:10 PM
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Can anyone walk me through why this is not a fold? I play mostly $5 and $10 SnG's and, barring the guy being a complete maniac, this bet is usually what it looks like.

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does it look like KJ or KQ or A9? hero is a ahead of villians range so easy call.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:21 PM
QuadDamage QuadDamage is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

I mean a really large reraise usually means the straight, fairly straightforward. I'm getting the impression that there is a lot more deception once you move up a level or two.

I might be having selective memory here but I usually can't convince myself to fold in this situation and I go broke way more often than not.
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Old 10-13-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

A huge flop raise makes me think that it's not a made straight you are up against. My guess would be something like AT, KQ, or some combo flush/inside straight draw.
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Old 10-13-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

I called. MP1 had the straight and MP3 (raiser) had ATo in, I believe.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : AJs flops 2 pair, but...

i hate limping AJs ep I'd rather play it for a raise...AJo id turbomuck
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