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08-15-2007, 01:58 PM
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Re: $10NL PF with 44
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Just call from the SB and play no set/no bet. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think it's bad to raise here? I usually raise all my PPs pf. If you think this guy is going to min-raise you is it a bad idea? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it's bad to raise 44 here. I just don't see an overwhelming reason to do so at NL10. Which I assume has more limped pots and more loose passives than levels above. Just limp it, blend in, value bet the heck out of it when you hit your set. [/ QUOTE ] I usually raise these for a few reasons: -fold everyone pf and take it down now -build a decent pot so if I hit a set I can more easily stack someone -Take the initiative in the hand and cbet the flop which will usually take the pot down. When you just limp with a pp here you lose all of the above and its a lot more difficult to stack someone if you hit. 
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#12
08-15-2007, 01:59 PM
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Re: $10NL PF with 44
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) CO ($5.30) Button ($10.90) Hero ($10.05) BB ($5) UTG ($10.10) MP ($9.40) Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.2</font>, MP folds, Hero....?? Well here's how it played out...how do you treat this situation now? [/ QUOTE ] Well, now you fold obviously. Look at BB's stack. This is another factor in limping vs. raising this preflop. If you raise it and get two callers, you're screwed unless you hit a set. You raise it and get 3b, you have to fold. You limp it and get raised small, you might be able to call. You limp it and bb checks, you get a 3-way pot where, if you hit a set, there's a greater chance someone else hits a second best hand. I would just complete 22-77 all day long at NL10 in this scenario.
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#15
08-15-2007, 02:02 PM
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Re: $10NL PF with 44
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I usually raise these for a few reasons: -fold everyone pf and take it down now -build a decent pot so if I hit a set I can more easily stack someone -Take the initiative in the hand and cbet the flop which will usually take the pot down. When you just limp with a pp here you lose all of the above and its a lot more difficult to stack someone if you hit. [/ QUOTE ] These are all very good reasons sir. And at NL100 and above, yeah, raise 'em up. But, when the games are alot more limpy and alot more loose passive, completing 44 is fine.
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#16
08-15-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: $10NL PF with 44
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[ QUOTE ] Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) CO ($5.30) Button ($10.90) Hero ($10.05) BB ($5) UTG ($10.10) MP ($9.40) Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.2</font>, MP folds, Hero....?? Well here's how it played out...how do you treat this situation now? [/ QUOTE ] Well, now you fold obviously. Look at BB's stack. This is another factor in limping vs. raising this preflop. If you raise it and get two callers, you're screwed unless you hit a set. You raise it and get 3b, you have to fold. You limp it and get raised small, you might be able to call. You limp it and bb checks, you get a 3-way pot where, if you hit a set, there's a greater chance someone else hits a second best hand. I would just complete 22-77 all day long at NL10 in this scenario. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for the perspective aj.
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#17
08-15-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: $10NL PF with 44
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Just call from the SB and play no set/no bet. [/ QUOTE ] I don't totally agree, but I do see what you're saying. Personally I raise it. (Actually I raise almost ATC here). The biggest problem with raising 44 here at NL10 is that at NL10 they will call 3 streets with 55 on a A K T board. You just have to be good at hand reading and knowing your opponent.
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#19
08-15-2007, 02:25 PM
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Re: $10NL PF with 44
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[ QUOTE ] right, but we're playing from the blinds OOP [/ QUOTE ] What hands will the open-limper fold for 0.65 that he won't fold for 0.40? [/ QUOTE ] Probably not many. What do you raise AA to in this situation?
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#20
08-15-2007, 02:35 PM
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Re: $10NL PF with 44
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] right, but we're playing from the blinds OOP [/ QUOTE ] What hands will the open-limper fold for 0.65 that he won't fold for 0.40? [/ QUOTE ] Probably not many. What do you raise AA to in this situation? [/ QUOTE ] As much as I think he will call, but not less than about 0.50.
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