Two AJ hands from sunday warmup

HAND 1: fffffooold. youre definitely overthinking yourself here. the dude calls off 1/4 his stack and youre giving him like 3:1. hes got a beast within a good % of the time too..its the thought that counts though [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

HAND 2: yea fold

[shaundeeb]

in hand 1 I rather do it with a hand that tends to be more live against a calling range of both players. AJo looks good against 1st guys range but bad against 2nd.

[shaundeeb]

twisted when you first sent me the hand you said guy was nitty, which is quite diff than taggish.

[TwistedEcho]

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twisted when you first sent me the hand you said guy was nitty, which is quite diff than taggish.

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nitty in the sense he plays his cards ,so he open raises AK, but i dont think hes the type who thinks 'oh look, im in LP i should raise my K5s cause they will probably fold'. This (in my mind) made it less likely he was clever enough to trap here with AA/KK, and more likely he had a marginal hand that he didn't feel was strong enough to raise (AQ/AJ/TT/99/88/77) and i also thought there was a good chance he folds all of those if i pushed.

i dont think you need to be clever enough to trap with AA/KK..that's basically in everybodys arsenal, nomatter what your skill level's at

[Art Vandelay]

Hand 1: I do the same

Hand 2: I think its close, but I fold (I'm calling with AQ).

[TwistedEcho]

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i dont think you need to be clever enough to trap with AA/KK..that's basically in everybodys arsenal, nomatter what your skill level's at

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Don't agree - there are tons of players who see AA/KK and recognise its a 'raising hand' and won't even think to call to trap. They will reraise because thats how you play AA/KK.

[Bob Loblaw]

i agree w/ PWI, it doesnt take a very high level thinker to get the idea slowplay with aces. with no read i think you can fold here, but clearly if you know he's a tool then shove away.

[ddrstel]

For hand 2, Cos i have lots of time, i ran some numbers.

The ranges i've been given by Twisted is a random hand for MP2, and {22+, A8+, KQ} for SB.

For the main pot:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.783% 35.51% 03.28% 57483132 5303870.83 { 22+, A8s+, KQs, A8o+, KQo }
Hand 1: 34.859% 31.38% 03.48% 50799264 5635688.33 { AJo }
Hand 2: 26.359% 25.66% 00.70% 41546841 1126291.83 { random } </pre><hr />

For the side pot:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.262% 47.39% 04.87% 231992763 23863053.00 { 22+, A8s+, KQs, A8o+, KQo }
Hand 1: 47.738% 42.86% 04.87% 209848628 23863053.00 { AJo } </pre><hr />

Taking into account blinds and antes, its 175k for Twisted to call the all in into a pot of 250k, creating:

Main pot = 200k
Side pot = 225k
Total pot = 425k

34.86% of the time, we are +250k (+87.15k)
38.78% of the time, we are -175k (-67.87k)
If MP2 wins main pot (will happen 26.36% of the time):
12.21% (52.3% of 26.36) of the time, we are +50k (+6.11k)
14.15% (47.7% of 26.36) of the time, we are -175k (-24.76k)

giving an equity of +0.63k.

So this call is effectively 0EV, considering reads and hand range assumptions.

[TakenItEasy]

I feel like a nit.

AQ+, 99+ for both.