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Old 04-18-2006, 04:05 PM
S0meGuy S0meGuy is offline
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

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Fold... post your pokerstars name with the results

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Old 04-18-2006, 04:18 PM
MyTurn2Raise MyTurn2Raise is offline
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

Push...small blind (90 VPIP and 24 PFR) liked his hand enough to raise OOP. There has got to be at least a 2 in 3 chance of him calling any bet. Plus, the chances he calls the additional $1.60 min and not a full push seem minimal. He wants to gambool, give him the chance.

BB raised a small blind player by quite a bit. He likey his hand. Get his money in for sure.

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Old 04-18-2006, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

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SB. VPIP = 90%. PF raise = 24%.
No reads on BB.


Hero : Push or call? Actually I don't know what I wants to do. I don't know if I wants to isolate by pusing, or keeping the SB in the pot too. What about a very small reraise to 4-5$, which pretty much commit us all to the pot, and the possibily of SB calling is bigger than if he pushed.

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With your edit, you've got it right. $4-$5 is a good range and leaves you with about a PSB for the flop.
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Old 04-18-2006, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

Raise to $4-$5 like you talked about. You are only giving up about 10% chance of winning the hand by adding another player, and an extra $4 is more than 10% of the pot. You will win more money like this in the longrun. Push any flop.
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Old 04-18-2006, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

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SB. VPIP = 90%. PF raise = 24%.
No reads on BB.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) converter

SB ($11.35)
BB ($8.80)
Hero ($9.85)
MP ($6)
Button ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">

Hero : Push or call? Actually I don't know what I wants to do. I don't know if I wants to isolate by pusing, or keeping the SB in the pot too. What about a very small reraise to 4-5$, which pretty much commit us all to the pot, and the possibily of SB calling is bigger than if he pushed.

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IMHO, you limp AA PF to trap someone PF, not to spring a trap on the flop.

Let's say you raise to $5 and get both players to call. You now have ~$5 in your stack with ~$15 in the pot. Opponents will get proper odds to call your flop push if they have any type of draw. You have BB covered so he will actually get better odds.

This is SS, people may not be aware that limp-push PF screams AA. You'll get someone to call and if not, you pick up the pot uncontested, which is never a bad thing!
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Old 04-18-2006, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

don't u guys think your overvalueing his hand? this is preflop afterall there isstill 5 cards to come.. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 04-18-2006, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

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By pushing, which I actually did, the SB (even though he is fishy) will fold all hands expect the premium ones. (AK, JJ+).

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So what? You are in better shape vs the premium hands anyway.
If you just raise $5 as stinky says the opponents without the premium hands will often have proper odds to draw, but even worse when they do not have odds, they will make the proper fold to your subsequent push.
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Old 04-18-2006, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

If you are having trouble determining the correct and might I add very easy decision, you might as well fold.
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Old 04-18-2006, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

By raising just 4$. More isn't needed. If the SB decides to call, the BB will only have 2$ left and probably push. Now I do only have 4$ left. And it is correct that if he picks up just any draw, any pair, he will call my all-in on the flop. But isn't that what I wants him to do. If he has JQo. And he gets a pair of jacks on the flop and call my push. I am still a big favourite to win a big pot. If he gets a flush-draw I will still win 65% of the time. Sometimes I may get outdrawn, but I think it is EV+ to take this risk and win an even bigger pot.
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Old 04-18-2006, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Hero decides to limp with AA OOP, and faces resistance. Now what

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By pushing, which I actually did, the SB (even though he is fishy) will fold all hands expect the premium ones. (AK, JJ+).

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what would the SB call $1.60 or $4.50 with that isn't in this list of hands?
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