Live 25/50 4-handed

[nigelloring]

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Overbet shove all-in.

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I agree with this raise size if you are going to raise the turn, but with the stack sizes I disagree. After checking this turn you should either call or fold. As played, call and reevaluate river. He either has you severly dominated or is severly behind, and with the raise on the turn you never get looked up with a worse hand. You aren't giving up too much of the pot by letting the river come off if he does have a bigger draw. Call.

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Thank you. I totally agree with this line of thinking.

Results: I overbet shoved and he called with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

River was K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and his hand was good.

[The Man]

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1600 on turn shove most rivers, as played I'd C/R to 2300 and shove almost all rivers.

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How does villain ever call with a hand that is behind even on the turn? I think shoving is a pretty bad idea unless you boat up. I just cant see villain calling with TPTK even to that turn bet

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i don't understand the flop check-raise at all. i think this is the last sort of hand you want to be check-raising, unless you have the craziest of images, which doesn't seem to be the case.

i actually kind of love a passive line here, like check-call flop and then play it by street, probably also check-calling turn and then depends on what the river brings, adjust your action accordingly. you have to mix it up with passive lines with strong hands, and i think this is a good time to do it since people don't like to get too crazy on monotone flops and if you get the money in, you're not going to be in very good shape.