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Old 05-09-2007, 05:42 AM
TylerD TylerD is offline
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

Great post. Can't wait to hear FTP Doug's response.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

This is some interesting stuff you wrote there... Great observations! Ever thought of becoming a private investigator? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'll be checking my PT database as well tonight, this might be happening on lower limits as well... Thanks for opening our naive eyes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:25 AM
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:25 AM
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Awesome, amazing, eye-opening post.

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Old 05-09-2007, 06:41 PM
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Awesome, amazing, eye-opening post.

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Old 05-09-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

It's very possible that this is a bot.

However, I've heard of a guy 24-tabling 6max...maybe this is just a sicker dude? It's very improbably, but one dude's 30-tabling SNGs on a 17" monitor, why couldn't another be 40-tabling on multiple monitors. This would also explain the slow reaction times, and the strategy you described, coupled with his HUD stats seems extremely unthinking (my guess is he's c-betting 100% of the time he's up against 1-2 villains, and checks whenever there's more). A lot of players play that way though, even at 6max.

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From what I could tell he was letting the bots play pf and against other players and then overriding their postflop action when necessary in hands against me.

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To extend on this idea, I expect there to be a program by now that would take care of pre-flop strategy, and let the owner take over post-flop. I actually remember my friend considering buying one of these for Party Poker a little over a year ago.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:19 AM
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Full Tilt is listed as a bot safe, detection free site in the instructions on a prominent bot maker's website and has been for a long time. Clearly Full Tilt does not take action and does not care in spite of their claims to the contrary.

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Full Tilt investigated them for many weeks and asked me to refrain from posting about them until the investigation was complete.

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Why don't they have a play history? What difference will a couple of weeks make? This sounds like they want to hold off bad publicity for as long as possible.
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Old 05-09-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

Suppose there would be a total of 40 bots on FullTilt.
Bots can make very long hours, playing multiple tables.
A bot could easily generate 30,000 dollars rake each month.
40 bots easily could generate more than a million dollars rake each month.
It would only hurt the pro's, fish don't care enough, site makes money, bots make money; everybody happy but the pro's.

I wish webcam-poker would take of!
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Old 05-09-2007, 03:13 PM
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Where do you get these bots??
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:18 AM
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

Great Work!

I think that FTP should consider hiring you as a consultant. Don't take less than $50 an hour [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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