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Re: Casino Gambling Web Delivers 435 Packets to Congress
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I am not sure why this forum is so ungrateful for their help. [/ QUOTE ] Hold on there guy, one ass replying to your thread does not translate to the "forum" being ungrateful. |
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Hold on there guy, one ass replying to your thread does not translate to the "forum" being ungrateful. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry. Point taken. That was the only response I saw at the time, so I took it as representative of the entire forum. |
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Re: Casino Gambling Web Delivers 435 Packets to Congress
I have seen far less productive suggestions/actions posted on this forum that recieved much more attention.
Were there not discussions of sending "poker chips" to each member of congress? Well CGW took it quite a few steps further and more importantly followed through. Good work. |
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Compare the substance of your last post to the fluff of your original
"Milton, not quite sure what the hell you are talking about. Here are some facts... "
Eddy, that is precisely what I am talking about .... giving some substance to your posts. Look at your original post in this thread, compare it to the facts you provide now, after your original post is mocked. Your factual post is 100% better, it describes something of substance, without the garbage about how "all" said the package was "strong". I have no axe to grind and certainly wish your effort every success. However, as a rhetorical device, your original post was terrible, you are much more effective when you take the time to provide substance. Don't you think an explanation of what was in this "package" would have been a good opener ? |
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Roy, I thought it was worthwhile.
Do you want facts, even if they need to be painfully drawn out, or do you want "Gee-whiz, everyone says its great" ? Compare the OPs later posts to his initial pieces of puffery and petulance. He is 100% better at telling people WHY they should answer his call to action when he explains it. Look, I hope he succeeds, but the initial puffery and subsequent petulance needed perhaps a firmer response than your opinion allows for. It seems to have worked in drawing out what NOW looks like a substantive effort by someone, whoever they are. In my opinion, you should thank me for taking the time to get the ball rolling for this thread. |
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Politics and Legislation are a tough arena, but it cuts to the chase.
Well. ktulu, it is a tough crowd, but it does actually act on posts which seem to have merit and substance.
Politics and legislation is a very critical arena. I will admit that calling the OP a crybaby was tough, but he was being one, instead of acting to garner support. I would suggest that he will be a more effective poster going forward in seeking action here. This is a different arena than strategy forums or other discussions of poker substance. |
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Hey, Socrates had to drink hemlock. That did not make him wrong or poorly written rhetoric right.
Post the facts, eddytom, it helps gain support for your cause and explain WHY people should anser your call. (Rhetorically, it doesn't hurt either to have a little controversy to get noticed.) |
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ok I think you beat the thing to death, lets get to making the calls.
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Milton, point taken. Your right, I am not very experienced at forums so I could have used the advice, and it is nice that the controversy got the thread rolling, so let's move on...
Here are some more 'facts'. Casino Gambling Web just released an article explaining that the most important people to call are those in the Financial Services Committee. Below is a link to the article, which includes all the Washington DC phone numbers of all the members of the Financial Services Committee who have not yet signed on to co-sponsor Frank's bill. Actually, Ill just copy and paste that list... [ QUOTE ] Below is a list of all Democratic Congress people on the Financial Services Committee who have yet to sign on to co-sponsor Barney Frank's bill. Paul E. Kanjorski 11th-PA ... 202-225-6511 Maxine Waters 35th-CA ... 202-225-2201 Maloney 14th-NY... 202-225.7944 Nydia M. Velázquez 12th-NY ... 202-225-2361 Brad Sherman 27th-CA ... 202-225-5911 Gregory Meeks 6th-NY ... 202-225-3461 Dennis Moore 3-KS ... 202-225-2865 Rubén Hinojosa 15th-TX ... 202-225-2531 Stephen Lynch 9th-MA ... 202-225-8273 Brad Miller 13th-NC ... 202-225-3032 David Scott 13th-GA ... 202-225-2939 Al Green 9th-TX ... 202-225-7508 Emanuel Cleaver 5th-MO ... 202-225-4535 Melissa Bean 8th-IL ... 202-225-3711 Gwen Moore 4th-WI ... 202-225-4572 Davis 4th-TN ... 202.225.6831 Albio Sires 13th-NJ ... 202-225-7919 Paul Hodes 2nd-NH ... 202-225-5206 Keith Ellison 5th-MN ... 202-225-4755 Ron Klein 22nd-FL ... 202-225-3026 Tim Mahoney 16th-FL ... 202-225-5792 Charlie Wilson 6th-OH ... 202-225-5705 Chris Murphy 5th-CT ... 202-225-4476 Joe Donnelly 2nd-IN ... 202-225-3915 Jim Marshall 8th-GA ... 202-225-6531 Dan Boren 2nd-OK ... 202-225-2701 Of the 32 Republicans listed as members of the Financial Services Committee, only 2 have signed on to co-sponsor Frank's Bill H.R. 2046. Those that have not yet, are listed below. Spencer Bachus 6th-AL ... 202 225-4921 Richard Baker 6th-LA ... 202-225-3901 Deborah Pryce 15th-OH ... 202-225-2015 Mike Castle DE ... 202-225-4165 Ed Royce 40th-CA ... 202-225-4111 Frank Lucas 3rd-OK ... 202-225-5565 Steven LaTourette 14th-OH ... 202-225-5731 Don Manzullo 16th-IL ... 202-225-5676 Walter Jones 3rd-NC ... 202-225-3415 Judy Biggert 13th-IL ... 202-225-3515 Christopher Shays 4th-CT ... 202-225-5541 Gary Miller 42nd-CA ... 202-225-3201 Shelly Moore Capitol 2nd-WV ... 202-225-2711 Tom Feeney 24th-FL ... 202-225-2706 Jeb Hensarling 5th-TX ... 202-225-3484 Scott Garrett 5th-NJ ... 202-225-4465 Ginny Brown-Waite 5th-FL ... 202-225-1002 J. Gresham Barrett 3rd-SC ... 202-225-5301 Jim Gerlach 6th-PA ... 202-225-4315 Steve Pearce 2nd-NM ... 202-225-2365 Randy Neugebauer 19th-TX ... 202-225-4005 Tom Price 6th-GA ... 202-225-4501 Geoff Davis 4th-KY ... 202-225-3465 Patrick McHenry 10th-NC ... 202-225-2576 John Campbell 48th-CA ... 202-225-5611 Adam Putnam 12th-FL ... 202-225-1252 Michele Bachmann 6th-MN ... 202-225-2331 Peter Roskam 6th-IL ... 202-225-4561 Kenny Marchant 24th-TX ... 202-225-6605 Thaddeus McCotter 11th-MI ... 202-225-8171 [/ QUOTE ] Full CGW Article |
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I don't 'work' for cgw, but I am a close friend to a couple of the guys who write for them and when something happens with them, they ask me to help spread the word. However, I am not sure how my relation to them is relevent. The fact is that they went way out of their way to go to D.C., and they spent months developing these 'informational packages' and hand delivered them at their own costs on behalf of the entire gambling community and they are now looking for help to make them more significant. I am not sure why this forum is so ungrateful for their help. [/ QUOTE ] i'm not ungrateful just a little perpexled of this campaign. i will admit though that every little bit helps. about this groups latest campaign: i don't see how spamming congress with misc. casino gambling papers is going to persuade anyone in congress. it's like getting spam in your email box of stuff you're not interested in--it gets tossed away. from the article itself this group didn't even speak to a single member of congress. hopefully this group has more up its sleeve and will engage in more effective means in lobbying congress. |
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