QQ in the WSOP $650.

[TwistedEcho]

Fwiw i really don't see folding KK as an option here, but QQ seems really close. I have no idea how much you should be accounting for the fact this is a sat either, since i really don't play many sats.

[TheNewf]

Fold QQ, call KK.

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Fwiw i really don't see folding KK as an option here, but QQ seems really close. I have no idea how much you should be accounting for the fact this is a sat either, since i really don't play many sats.

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It really all depends on how often you think they will make this play with AK or JJ. For a lot of people AK = AA, in the sense that they will always be willing to instantly call off all their chips with it.

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[mikeJ]

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Curtains, I think giving a range of QQ+/AK for BB when he instacalls is definitely too loose. Maybe give like 4 combos of AK and like 2 combos of QQ. I think QQ is a fold.

However, I don't see how you can fold KK here. Between the occasional BB who thinks AK/QQ is the nuts and that KK is way ahead of SB's range (there's a side pot after all), I don't see how you could ever fold KK here.

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Well we have QQ, so its not like they are often going to have QQ. We are 40% against AA/KK and AK and some chance both players duplicate with AK.

Folding KK is of course the worst thing in history. So you think this player is going to fold AK in this spot?

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I think most villains will not instacall w/ AK. Also, I think pokerstove accounts for our cards when determining how many combos of hands our oppt can hold, i.e., if we hold Qd, villain cannot.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.087% 23.12% 00.96% 1086512566 45326963.33 { QQ }
Hand 1: 58.719% 56.76% 01.96% 2667200588 91965809.33 { KK+, QdQs, QhQs, AKs }
Hand 2: 17.194% 15.62% 01.57% 733947512 73991273.33 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.890% 31.20% 03.70% 1046787854 123989748.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 49.240% 45.38% 03.86% 1522685460 129604158.00 { KK+, QdQs, QhQs, AKs }
Hand 2: 15.870% 15.36% 00.51% 515369782 17168790.00 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 65.632% 64.31% 01.32% 303928758 6246258.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 34.368% 33.05% 01.32% 156174630 6246258.00 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 75.520% 74.78% 00.74% 372622338 3677328.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 24.480% 23.74% 00.74% 118303470 3677328.00 { KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, QQ-99, AQs+, AQo+ }

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So you think the guy will play AKs but not AKo?? Seems like a weird conclusion. I actually have a hard time thinking of any situation where some random internet player would fold AKo but play AKs.

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I just put AKs in the range because I previously said that it may be more appropriate to weight villain's range such that there are 4 combos of AK. AKs = 4 combos of the total 16 combos of AK.

[MychCumstien]

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Fold QQ, call KK.

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[Crispy]

I gueeeess because its a satellite, this could make QQ a fold. Yeah kinda sucks though.

[Eagles]

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Gamecock1: (instantly)calls 8132 and is all-in

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This is like AA or KK always

[THEOSU]

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Gamecock1: (instantly)calls 8132 and is all-in

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This is like AA or KK always

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and every so often it's a misclick.

[Eagles]

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Gamecock1: (instantly)calls 8132 and is all-in

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This is like AA or KK always

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and every so often it's a misclick.

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Very good point. Your right I definetely overlooked this.