Need Some Actual Advice Here - Page 2

Jeffrey Dahmer · #11 08-01-2007, 05:10 PM

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you are having a go at the "druggies and alcoholics" but you openly admit you have an addictive personality.

You continuously go bust by playing like a fool or above your bankroll.

You really need to look at yourself, you could find yourself blowing away all your money and ending up with an addiction.
I highlight this by "They would rather do drugs than play poker". I used to do a lot of drugs at school and it was a social thing that me and my friends went through, yet they are socialising and you are sitting in front of a computer.

It seems you could easily wake up with a problem and looking at the guys who were druggies who grew out of the phase and made something of their lives.

Give poker a 2 month break and get out and socialise.

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You would be a horrible psychologist.

trangers · #12 08-01-2007, 06:03 PM

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you are having a go at the "druggies and alcoholics" but you openly admit you have an addictive personality.

You continuously go bust by playing like a fool or above your bankroll.

You really need to look at yourself, you could find yourself blowing away all your money and ending up with an addiction.
I highlight this by "They would rather do drugs than play poker". I used to do a lot of drugs at school and it was a social thing that me and my friends went through, yet they are socialising and you are sitting in front of a computer.

It seems you could easily wake up with a problem and looking at the guys who were druggies who grew out of the phase and made something of their lives.

Give poker a 2 month break and get out and socialise.

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You would be a horrible psychologist.

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You would be a horrible poker player. Crying because you lost a hand? Cmon.

aaokwitme · #13 08-01-2007, 06:42 PM

I was going to reply to this kids post, but I can't stop looking at that ass.

silver book · #14 08-02-2007, 03:45 AM

apparently no one else thinks this is a level. in that case, i dont either...

Rounder101 · #15 08-02-2007, 04:13 AM

keep playing, but learn to control and discipline urself. No way of winning without bankroll management. U leave to much to luck.
Just curiosity, how old r u?

JackAll · #16 08-02-2007, 06:39 AM

Play play chips until you can beat them.
This will take time. During this time read books and strategy posts on the relevant forum of the type of poker you play. When you can eventually win at play chips (and this will take more than 6 months), you try the lowest limit available ($2, $5 or $10 tables depending where you play). Only when you can win 20 buy-ins can you move up a limit. Then if you lose and have less than 15 at a current level, you move down and rebuild).

Do you notice that there is a method and a plan here? It's not just a simple naive: "put money in. play"

Also, it looks like you are just trying to "luck out". And this is the wrong way to look at it because for every dollar you win from good luck, you lose the same dollar later on to bad luck.

Poker is actually a game of skill and knowledge. If you don't understand some of the major fundamental concepts (and I'm sure you know of almost none of them [there are much more than you can even comprehend right now]), then you will not be a winning player. And you don't learn just by playing as much as you learn by reading and discussing it on a forum with other people.

You need to learn the game. It took me about 40 hours a week for 1.5 years as well as having a pro to coach me before I could make a consist living off it. Just putting in $50 and hoping for the best is idiotic. Do you see why?

Are you getting my message at all? It's a game of skill more than luck. Do some god damn learning and don't rely on luck.

JackAll · #17 08-02-2007, 06:42 AM

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I was going to reply to this kids post, but I can't stop looking at that ass.

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Holy mother of god. That is <font color="red">HAAAAAWT!</font>

Jeffrey Dahmer · #18 08-02-2007, 10:45 AM

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Play play chips until you can beat them.
This will take time. During this time read books and strategy posts on the relevant forum of the type of poker you play. When you can eventually win at play chips (and this will take more than 6 months), you try the lowest limit available ($2, $5 or $10 tables depending where you play). Only when you can win 20 buy-ins can you move up a limit. Then if you lose and have less than 15 at a current level, you move down and rebuild).

Do you notice that there is a method and a plan here? It's not just a simple naive: "put money in. play"

Also, it looks like you are just trying to "luck out". And this is the wrong way to look at it because for every dollar you win from good luck, you lose the same dollar later on to bad luck.

Poker is actually a game of skill and knowledge. If you don't understand some of the major fundamental concepts (and I'm sure you know of almost none of them [there are much more than you can even comprehend right now]), then you will not be a winning player. And you don't learn just by playing as much as you learn by reading and discussing it on a forum with other people.

You need to learn the game. It took me about 40 hours a week for 1.5 years as well as having a pro to coach me before I could make a consist living off it. Just putting in $50 and hoping for the best is idiotic. Do you see why?

Are you getting my message at all? It's a game of skill more than luck. Do some god damn learning and don't rely on luck.

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I understand poker more than you ever will. I have a tight grasp on the game, not BR management. I built my BR to $700 from $10 in a few months, twice. I know what I am doing. Also, play chips teach you nothing but bad play, idiot.

bbartlog · #19 08-02-2007, 11:38 AM

If the emotional swings bother you I'd recommend sticking to SNGs at a limit appropriate to your bankroll. Not that they can't be frustrating too, but the overall variance is low (again, assuming you play at a level where you have twenty buyins in your BR) and losing a SNG is a lot less emotionally draining than playing for three hours in a MTT and then getting sucked out on on the bubble.

geoncic · #20 08-02-2007, 03:26 PM

Hey, don't get defensive.

You already admitted to yourself that you have a problem, and you are looking at some way of fixing it. This is good.

If you realize that you have an addictive personality (I do to), then you can control it.

There is a fine line between passion and addiction (addicts lose).

Take a breather for a week or two, reread up on the fundamentals, and then take another week break.

It sounds like you want to make it big quit (building a bankroll to $700 from $10 in a few months). You'll go busto every time if you try to do that (98% of the time).

Poker is a HARD game. And I'm not talking about strategy and skill. The hardest part of poker is patience, and bankroll management in order to grind it out to the higher levels while keeping yourself from moving up in order for your bankroll to absorb variance.

play the lowest limits you can. get confident at it. Only move up once you have 20 buy-ins for NL or 300X the BB for limit. Don't be afraid to move back down if you hit some bad cards and you lose a bit of your bankroll. It does not make you a failure.

But most importantly. Poker will not be able to support you or your family in the short run. Finish school. Go to college if you can. Get an education and a full-time job. Only take shots at poker with money that you can afford to lose. If you wouldn't walk into the ghetto or bar parking lot holding it in your hand, don't play with it.