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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
I don't see anything wrong with just folding to the flop raise. We're OOP and the pot is tiny. He could have a flush draw, but if you're mistaken, it's going to be very very expensive.
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#12
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
Dave, we all tilt sometimes. Give it up.
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#13
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
What answer am I supposed to listen to? Tautomer hit the logic of the hand dead-on. For the record, when I say my "read" is a flush draw, I am saying that I am 80% sure that is what I am facing.
"We all tilt sometimes, give it up" has two million meanings. Am I folding? |
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
no dont fold; you have 2nd pair! just shoving seems pointless does it not?
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
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Poker Stars, $5 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players LeggoPoker Hand History Converter SB: 1,970 Hero (BB): 1,030 Pre-Flop: (30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB) SB calls 10, Hero checks Flop: (40) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets 20</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to 80</font> I felt like he had a flush draw. After the past few days, I don't feel like following through with my reads. Yeah, I am pretty sure he would have called. And no, he is not going to fold anything, there is no purpose to raise pf. [/ QUOTE ] Dave , even if he's not going to fold , you should still raise this pre-flop . Your raising for value since it's likely your hand is better than his . So you should raise as much as he's willing to call . That is , if you think you'll win more than 50% of pots , whether uncontested or not , you should be raising for value . Mathematically , it is much more likely he hit a piece of the flop than he's on a flush draw . The odds against him being on a flush draw is ~ 3:1 since he'll hit a flush draw ~ 10.9% of the time . However , he hits a piece of the flop about 33% of the time . So you have a few options : 1) If he's maniacal , you may re-raise this hand (but not shove) since you're likely to be ahead . 2) Just call if you think there is a decent chance you're ahead . 3) Fold against a solid tight player since you have little invested . |
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
"2) Just call if you think there is a decent chance you're ahead . "
Ok, then what do we do with different turns??? |
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
You fold if a flush card hits since there is an increased chance of him having the best hand .
Based on Dave's assessment , it appears that he's dealing with a loose player so I would have re-raised otf . |
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
I found this really surprising. We should be raising T9s PF for value when we're OOP? I thought being OOP was enough of a handicap that raising T9s PF would be -EV.
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
I wouldn't raise this OOP, especially against most low level players who are way too loose and passive.
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Re: T9 5sng.. I want to shove.
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I wouldn't raise this OOP, especially against most low level players who are way too loose and passive. [/ QUOTE ] qft |
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