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#11
10-14-2007, 07:28 AM
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Re: War Tax Resistance
Looking at this post I think you are getting it all wrong.
When it comes to the Iraq war, I think we are so close to an admitted, although it is already a de facto, loss to the USA, that it becomes a matter of who in the world will have to carry the can for war reparations and remediations for the problems created. I am all in support that all in the coalition of the willing, that went against the world sentiment, by interfering in the internal politics of a sovereign nation, under false pretense (WMD etc..) and resulted in the destruction of a nation as well as the killing of in excess of 500,000 over and above those who would be killed under the then existing regime, SHOULD pay for it, in proportion to their involvement. I expect Australians to have to pay extra taxes to put things right, but I am glad we won't be able to pay anywhere near what the individuals US taxpayers will have to pay! 
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#12
10-14-2007, 08:11 AM
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Re: War Tax Resistance
The best way to protest taxes is to talk other people into protesting taxes. Then they will take all the personal risks upon themselves.
One way to do this is to post about this issue in a forum like the 2+2 politics forum. Get the ball rolling for others to do your protest for you. Kudos to the OP for his effective protesting technique. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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#13
10-14-2007, 08:17 AM
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Re: War Tax Resistance
W_brad,
I don't mind as long as the US starts to take responsibilities and is held to account when it looses a war (ie Korea, Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, Iraq)! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#14
10-14-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: War Tax Resistance
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Hi I am wondering about this topic. What are the options for somebody who strongly opposes the war in Iraq and doesn't want to support it by paying taxes? As far as I can tell someone can refuse to pay in which case some combination of them going to jail and their assets being seized will take place. Or they could leave the country and take all their money and not come back. [/ QUOTE ] IMO, you should find another way to protest. Your unpaid tax, if discovered, will be a non-dischargeable debt that will accrue penalties and interest and compound annually. All of which will, upon discovery, be applied retroactively to the date that the tax was incurred. Depending on the size of the liability and your ability to earn an income, you could end up in a position where you will never be able to pay off the debt. In addition, in order to satisfy the tax, the IRS can and will garnish wages, file a tax lien, seize assets and liquidate your property. Finally, if you should die before your tax is paid, the IRS will seize your estate and be first in line for payment. Long after your politics and the geo-political environment has changed, you will still owe this debt. Seems like a meaningless pyhrric victory at best.
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#15
10-14-2007, 10:34 AM
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Re: War Tax Resistance
Yeah BPA I agree that is the conclusion I see too. Not paying taxes ends up with them getting the money in the end and the protester being screwed.
However there is another option, someone could leave the country and take all their money with them. People are confused at how the Holocaust was allowed to happen, what is happening now is the same type of thing, if not as extreme. The government is doing something very bad and I support it. It doesn't matter how much I say I'm against it if I keep paying taxes, I pay more taxes than most people and that money goes to supprot the effort in Iraq. U.S. Secretary of State Alexander Haig said (1982) regarding war protesters: "Let them march all they want, as long as they continue to pay their taxes." Have people done that, left the country with its money to not support the government? That is a powerful statement, anyone know what the ramifications of that are?
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#18
10-14-2007, 11:07 AM
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Yeah but a very good reason to protest taxes is to send a statemetn that you are willing to put yourself in a tough situation because you are so opposed to the war and supporting it by paying taxes. So the "keep your mouth shut" is against the spirit of the activity. [/ QUOTE ] You're in a tough enough position if you don't pay taxes and don't say anything. There's no need to announce what you're doing. In my mind what's important is not "sending a message", but actually not paying for the war. If you quietly don't pay your taxes, there is a good chance you WILL get away with it.
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#19
10-14-2007, 12:06 PM
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Re: War Tax Resistance
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[ QUOTE ] Yeah but a very good reason to protest taxes is to send a statemetn that you are willing to put yourself in a tough situation because you are so opposed to the war and supporting it by paying taxes. So the "keep your mouth shut" is against the spirit of the activity. [/ QUOTE ] You're in a tough enough position if you don't pay taxes and don't say anything. There's no need to announce what you're doing. In my mind what's important is not "sending a message", but actually not paying for the war. If you quietly don't pay your taxes, there is a good chance you WILL get away with it. [/ QUOTE ] Good luck with all of that.
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#20
10-14-2007, 01:03 PM
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Re: War Tax Resistance
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[ QUOTE ] anyone know what the ramifications of that are? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, they still tax you. [/ QUOTE ] how can the US govt. still tax you if you leave the country and take all of yoru stuff with you?
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