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Old 10-13-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: Downswinging, looking for post flop examination/criticism

So you are c/f turn UI with J10 and QJ when you lead flop?
I think the reason you would be lost with these hands post flop is because calling in the BB with these hands is a leak
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: Downswinging, looking for post flop examination/criticism

two comments:

i don't like c/r the flop in the TT hand. is this standard for a lot of people?

in the KQ hand, I couldn't imagine why you wouldn't bet
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:15 AM
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Default Re: Downswinging, looking for post flop examination/criticism

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So you are c/f turn UI with J10 and QJ when you lead flop?
I think the reason you would be lost with these hands post flop is because calling in the BB with these hands is a leak

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No. Failing to call from the BB with QJs or JTs after UTG raises and 2 players call would be a leak.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: Downswinging, looking for post flop examination/criticism

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two comments:

i don't like c/r the flop in the TT hand. is this standard for a lot of people?

in the KQ hand, I couldn't imagine why you wouldn't bet

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I agree w/ you. I wouldn't CR against a TAG utg on this flop. I would C/C and re-evaluate on turn.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: Downswinging, looking for post flop examination/criticism

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So you are c/f turn UI with J10 and QJ when you lead flop?
I think the reason you would be lost with these hands post flop is because calling in the BB with these hands is a leak

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No. Failing to call from the BB with QJs or JTs after UTG raises and 2 players call would be a leak.

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It's close I would say. I watched a video from CR and Brian was in a spot w/ JTs in sB and one villain opened early and another called and he said the right play here is just to fold (o/c if you some reads that the players are fish etc you can make the call). SC needs position.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: Downswinging, looking for post flop examination/criticism

i really hate the TT checkraise and turn check

i think the other hands are pretty standardish except i would get KK in earlier (but still always call river)

vbet KQ, crycall KJ
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