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Old 11-08-2007, 08:28 PM
AshleyC AshleyC is offline
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Default Re: 3 bet Blind Defence against TAG

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bet/call the flop...or crai...you 3-bet a marginal hand and you flopped TP with a straight draw. if you're not willing to put chips in post flop you shouldn't be 3-betting pre-flop imo.

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This is nonsense.

His attempt to steal is 21%, so KJ doesnt fair that bady against his range.

Alot of the time he fold to the 3 bet (small pairs etc), or calls with these / AK and folds to my probable c-bet on most flops.
From Pokerstove his range is approximately any pair, any broadway (ie QT) and A7+.

Given that he calls, and that we get to see what the flop brings, we have a whole new load of information on which to base our decision. We should not ignore this information 'because we re-raised with KJ in the first place'.

When he calls the re-raise we can re-evaluate his hand range against the flop texture. I would assume his hand range for calling re-raises in position to be approx 88 or 99+, AK, possibly AQs. Against that range on this flop texture our hand is garbage.

Ignoring this new information and 'sticking to our guns' is criminal.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: 3 bet Blind Defence against TAG

An ASB of 21 is very low for a TAG, and you shouldn't be raising KJ against someone with an ASB that low. Over 30 and I'm fine with it.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: 3 bet Blind Defence against TAG

And this guy's a nit. Bet/call flop against a TAG. Fold preflop against a nit, as played, OK I guess.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:29 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: 3 bet Blind Defence against TAG

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bet/call the flop...or crai...you 3-bet a marginal hand and you flopped TP with a straight draw. if you're not willing to put chips in post flop you shouldn't be 3-betting pre-flop imo.

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This is nonsense.

His attempt to steal is 21%, so KJ doesnt fair that bady against his range.

Alot of the time he fold to the 3 bet (small pairs etc), or calls with these / AK and folds to my probable c-bet on most flops.
From Pokerstove his range is approximately any pair, any broadway (ie QT) and A7+.

Given that he calls, and that we get to see what the flop brings, we have a whole new load of information on which to base our decision. We should not ignore this information 'because we re-raised with KJ in the first place'.

When he calls the re-raise we can re-evaluate his hand range against the flop texture. I would assume his hand range for calling re-raises in position to be approx 88 or 99+, AK, possibly AQs. Against that range on this flop texture our hand is garbage.

Ignoring this new information and 'sticking to our guns' is criminal.

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i suppose you didn't play the hand so unreasonably. i just think the flop is decent for your hand and you need to get aggressive w/it somewhere on the flop. i don't like checking 3-streets when there are so many scare cards that could come.
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