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Old 11-02-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

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i was going to say c/c but i like bet/fold way better

don't like the line, but w/e

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I think c/c is pretty much the worst line we can take. For me, the decision is either c/f or b/f vs this villain. Also, what do you mean you don't like my line? Which street(s) specifically and why? Not saying my line is great or anything, just curious what line you prefer. I guess preflop is debatable, but I've reraised him a good amount and he has 4bet me a couple times, so I don't really want to get 4bet again particularly with a hand like KQs that plays so well postflop.

Flop? Eh, I can see leading being alright, but I don't see a big difference in betting and checking, EV wise. Plus being raised sucks, and he is aggressive enough that I won't have an easy decision if raised, which I will be probably a decent amount. I certainly would raise a lot of donk bets from tags in this spot, but that's me.

Turn I guess is debatable, but I don't see how leading could really be bad. He is calling with a lot of hands that are checking behind, and I'm just as likely to stack off when behind either way IMO, if not more so because now I've convinced myself that I've induced a bluff, and therefore cannot fold.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

1 fitty / fold if raised
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:25 AM
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i always just bet something dumb like 111. he's going to have showdown value here at the very least and be reluctant to turn his hand into a bluff when he can call getting such good pot odds

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What CTS said ldo.....
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

yeah it seems kinda stupid to even say out loud but "i agree with cts"

ninjia is a bit of a station too, i think there is legitimate value in betting it's not just a blocker
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

if he's good it's a bad bet though, right?
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

I kinda like a c/c because I can see him getting fancy and bluffing here and I'm not seeing that many better hands in his range
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

ninja's so weird... he goes like 2-300 hands without a peep, playing mediocre in-line poker and then goes nuts on me for like 4 orbits, then calms down again... maybe he's just catching cards on me. Anyways I guess I'm saying most of the time he's in line and a blocker is prefect.
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

Nobody likes being the guy that bets $30 on this flop?

Do work,

Rob
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Pretty nasty river spot with top two pair

I find your turn donk bet very interesting. When you decided to do that, what hand are u trying to rep? so what hand do you think villian think you have by doing this?
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:00 PM
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im betting like 110 ally day
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