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Old 09-07-2007, 12:33 AM
Klompy Klompy is offline
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

Super easy shove, then do a fist pump if they call. You're so far ahead of their range here.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

Easy shove. J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is the only reasonable hand for either of them to have, and even that isn't such a rocky limp in EP. And I have no idea why them being women is in any way relevant to this hand.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:37 AM
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The only reasonable hand that beats you, that is. And there's plenty of loose women out there. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

shove it in.

You are most likely up against a set and a turned two pair.

Though it seems in hindsight you are either trying to lead us to telling you to fold because one did indeed have JT, or because you folded and it never went to showdown and you want us to confirm your fears.
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

Are any of the rocks stuck for the night?

5 or 6 hours in and stuck, they may loosen up requirements and/or peel one off looking for the gutshot to stack someone with Aces up.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

this is an excellent time for a shove
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

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You bet your OESD with an ace and a FD on the board, your str8 got there without the FD getting there. You are now considering folding on the possibility that a "rock" floated a gutter with JT with the Ace on the board?????? Pretty easy shove IMO, the two rocks are likely to have two pair type hands or AT. You will see these WAY more than JT in this spot. If one of them has JT, change your evaluation of them being rocks.

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what about the possiblity of a higher straight? maybe j10. do u feel these rocks would have called $10 on that tpye of a play especially if the "j10" where suited in clubs?

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* Making decisions by putting opponents on a single hand instead of a range of hands is terrible.
* A rock calling a gutter with JT non-clubs is an oxy-moron.
* WTF with them being women being a material issue?
* easiest shove ever
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

I would push here.

It seems that the raise was pointing to two pair and then the call might be TP...or even trips and she might be thinking shes being sneaky by calling the flop and turn then pushing on the river. Same goes for the lady who raised 50, she also might be sitting on trips as well. I think the point is that you're miles ahead here because in order for t hem to call the flop (since you nicknamed them rock and boulder) they have to have SOME sort of hand and not so much a draw...a gut shot no less. Even tho its an unraised pot that dosnt mean someone has to be sitting on J10, of course it should be in your thought process that someone might have it but when you think about how the hand has played out all roads are pointing to you being ahead.

Im interested to see what happened.
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

easy shove.
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Live 1/2NL what would you do?

In the immortal words of Salt-n-Pepa, Push it, Push it Good....
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