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Old 07-02-2007, 11:00 AM
aShtk aShtk is offline
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Default Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?

If we only consider the hand range of the opponent preflop, he can have :
AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK.
Maybe he can do that with 99, 88, AQ, AJ if he's 4 betting light and put you on a squeeze.

But against the first hand range, it's about 43/57. So I think you have to call.
The fold after the raise depends really on the read you have on him.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:03 AM
Xexilla Xexilla is offline
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Default Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?

I think and agree that if your not willing to call a shove based on how you have been playing you shouldn't 3 bet the hand... but after 3 betting it I think the call was fine because you are beating his pushing range against you here.. Also your calling 80 more into an already $54 pot....

Hope you won the hand.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?

I snap call. It's about a break-even call against JJ+/AK and I'm sure he shows up with AQs/TT/random stuff some of the time.

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Got to be better spots to get your cash in.

Usually you're looking at an overpair here - villain was only in for $6 yet is willing to commit his stack. He has to think you have at least a hand like TT, AQ etc and isn't bothered in the least.

If he has a strong but not premium hand, wouldn't he flat call and try to use his position post flop?

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This is flawed thinking. If he thinks the push is +EV with a wide range, it doesn't matter that he only invested 6$...
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:30 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?

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Sorry, stats are 25/20/3.5

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Oh insta-call then. AK so often, he traps a lot with AA/KK.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:21 PM
Saviour_Flare Saviour_Flare is offline
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Default Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?

meh
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: JJ squeeze lp, who calls shove?

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Sorry, stats are 25/20/3.5

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yea this turns it into a call for me, 25/10 i prolly would fold, how large is this sample? have you seen him get out of line yet?
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