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Old 05-15-2007, 12:27 AM
burningyen burningyen is offline
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

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tends to bet his hand strength, and I've seen him c-bet larger than pot with TPTK.

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I think this takes QQ+ out of his range given the flop action. I wouldn't put it past a donk to slowplay JJ or 99 like this, but I would assign low probability to those hands.

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Is my flop raise too small?

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Yeah, as others already pointed out, 24k is better.

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Am I priced in on the turn?

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Taking overpairs out of Villain's range, I think it's a fold. If you think there's even a 50% chance Villain plays AA like this, then it's a call.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

I would probably call.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

There's no way I'm folding in this spot. If he has me beat (a HUGE if, by the way), I have plenty of river outs.

The stacks, pot-odds, outs, and possibility of a scarecard bluff makes this a call, IMO.

The flop raise is fine.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

I think 24k is too much on the flop. your raise is fine. as played I think I still call.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

I was watching this hand; as soon as you didn't insta-something I was like "man this is a sick spot if he has a set."

I think I'd call but man does it suck.

I don't mind your flop raise size, but I do think a little more is better.

Also, wasn't villain choppy, who has had a lot of tournament success? (Or maybe just won a Million?)
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

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I was watching this hand; as soon as you didn't insta-something I was like "man this is a sick spot if he has a set."

I think I'd call but man does it suck.

I don't mind your flop raise size, but I do think a little more is better.

Also, wasn't villain choppy, who has had a lot of tournament success? (Or maybe just won a Million?)

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Doesnt sound like choppy by the description. And as Timex can tell u Choppy is really good.

Meh, im a calling station, so i call here.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:30 AM
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Villain is one of the softer spots at the table, tends to bet his hand strength, and I've seen him c-bet larger than pot with TPTK. I showed up recently with a monster stack, played aggressively for a couple orbits, and lost a good chunk snapping off a KJ resteal with AQ.

Is my flop raise too small? Am I priced in on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t86607)
UTG+1 (t24475)
MP1 (t117394)
MP2 (t38662)
Hero (t75750)
CO (t34662)
Button (t29241)
SB (t25543)
BB (t89394)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t6000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t6000, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t13600) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t6000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t19550</font>, MP1 calls t13550.

Turn: (t52700) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t91644 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

Please note that although Villain shoves 91K, it's only 50K for me to call.

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In live tournament, I raise to pot 26K on the flop and fold to the turn's push (assume this is very deep). If I read villain bets draw (very likely here because you said he over bet pot if he has TPTK), I'd put in a bigger raise.

As played, I fold on the turn. It looked like you tried to keep the pot small on the flop.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

Umm...maybe I'm complete fish but I like to smooth call on flop here some. I like pot size control. Does anyone else think like me here? Anyways, as played...I think he has a 10 here on turn. Brave push if he doesn't. What did end you up doing?
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:21 AM
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Umm...maybe I'm complete fish but I like to smooth call on flop here some. I like pot size control.

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Why would you want to control the pot here?
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Stars Million: Rough Spot With Bottom Set

board is way too draw heavy to get cute here..pot is already built and well worth taking down at this point.
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