Noooooooooooooooooooo

[Hattifnatt]

Looks like something like K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or 44. I probably bet 450 and fold to a push but nothing wrong with checking.

[CopTHIS]

The thing is, hero literally could not have shown more strength, starting from raising UTG. Put yourself in villian's shoes (and I'm imagining that hero has some sort of tight/decent-ish image) - he's be slightly worried even with 44 or AT on the turn and isn't bound to 3-bet or lead the river with those hands. He quite often will give hero a real strong hand on the river or, occasionally, a bluff on the turn so may often check on the river with a large part of his holdings. Yes that means he may be looking to c/c an ace sometimes, but so often a river bet folds out hands you beat and he has a boat a fair bit even with the call of the raise on the turn and river check. When you bet the river I just doubt you get called enough by hands you beat.

[stigmata]

I agree, you kinda elucidated what I was trying to get at there Cop.

[ipokeder]

i c/f river pretty much always

villian would have to be pretty bad/maniacal for me to bet this.

[ddubois]

I check. AQ FT/cry

[Terrabon98]

i dont get the check, and i don't get why people think a check is good, unless you think he's tight enough to fold a bare ace to a huge bet, which he isn't.

If he's a laggy player, why would be not be happy getting it in with 44, A10, Ak...he probably rejacks you a decent amount with AK anyway PF, so his range would have to be skewed towards 44, A10, or a hand that you beat, most likely AJish, KQ type hands. There's plenty of value in a bet here.

[Go_Blue88]

I'd most likely value bet here unless I'm playing someone extremely tight.

If he has a fullhouse, then he played it pretty tricky, which seems contrary to your assumption that he sucks.

Also, I think checking behind here is terrible for your image. But, my main game has been HU for a while--so maybe players at 6 max won't take note of that.

[Bullitos]

Villain would have never called the turn raise with A9 or worse, since hero is representing a much better hand than this. There is a possibility he had FD+pair+gut outs, but this hand missed and isn't going to call a significant river bet, even more so after the wild turn action. So you will probably only get called by better hands, that's why I think this is a pretty easy check.

[Terrabon98]

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Villain would have never called the turn raise with A9 or worse, since hero is representing a much better hand than this.

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come on...

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There is a possibility he had FD+pair+gut outs, but this hand missed and isn't going to call a significant river bet, even more so after the wild turn action. So you will probably only get called by better hands, that's why I think this is a pretty easy check.

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You think it's more likely that a LAG coldcalls a big raise on the turn with a set/big two pair than just push? That wouldn't make a lot of sense on this board, especially since a push gets a good chunk of hero's chips, regardless of whether he calls or not.

[MTBlue]

You can tell by the bet sizes this guy isn't CTS or Grim. Anyhow bet the river, he's rarely filled here. Folding to a push is fine.