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11-09-2007, 09:58 AM
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Re: should I fold this KK preflop 100bb
It is still standard two people all in or not. And after my first post I made sure to check it before giving my next one. Like I said before, if this is EVER JJ-QQ and/or AK from villains then this is a snap call. Whyzze if this isnt standard then why are you still not able to find a fold? Villains seem fairly taggish so its not like theyre maniacs. The answer is equity, you get it all in here because of the equity of your range vs their ranges, but like I said, this has been discussed a million times already. Make it 4 all ins in front of me and then we can talk about whether or not shoving is correct.
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#14
11-09-2007, 10:02 AM
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Re: should I fold this KK preflop 100bb
BTW I'm pretty positive a fair range for UTG is exactly QQ/KK/AA. Fair SB range is prolly something like QQ/KK/AA/AK maybe JJ.
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11-09-2007, 10:02 AM
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Re: should I fold this KK preflop 100bb
im saying its not like the 100000000 other threads you stated and there is some validity to his question. Its closer than you are making it to be and I shove alot of crap preflop.
he doesn't deserve to be flamed for this....its not bad and its not incredibly standard either. |
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11-09-2007, 10:21 AM
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Re: should I fold this KK preflop 100bb
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Not enough information to fold KK. Fold everything else. [/ QUOTE ] how deep do you get before considering folding? |
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#17
11-09-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: should I fold this KK preflop 100bb
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[ QUOTE ] Not enough information to fold KK. Fold everything else. [/ QUOTE ] how deep do you get before considering folding? [/ QUOTE ] it depends. how is the table playing - how likely are we to make even more $ in the future - say we are playing with a table of tags and a lagtard - lag has 600bb we have 350bb - and the two guys pushing all in here are TAGs both with deep stacks and I think that I can bust the lag much easier if I protect my stack this hand and fold what is highly likely a +EV spot now to try and get into better spots shortly afterwards with maniac lagtard - THEN I think about folding. with 100bb never (well ok only if I misclick) - it's quite possible that both these guys have AK and have 2 whole outs between them effectively. 200bb - very rarely 300bb it's more a case of now how big is your edge vs the villains and how likely are you to win in the medium term if you fold I think - with stacks this deep it's kind of difficult to get 300bb all-in preflop |
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