Cake Poker Gold Card issue

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This information is uselss ofcourse gold cards are much more likely to be low cards because there are more low cards than face cards. Or are you treating low cards as cards below as 2-6?

[RikaKazak]

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This information is uselss ofcourse gold cards are much more likely to be low cards because there are more low cards than face cards. Or are you treating low cards as cards below as 2-6?

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read the example given...if it's NL heads up, and you're VERY deep, you know the most the guy has is most likely the 1 card str8, not a full house, so you can push and hopefully get him off the split, and or bluff him if you're "deep enough".

[2461Badugi]

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read the example given...if it's NL heads up, and you're VERY deep, you know the most the guy has is most likely the 1 card str8, not a full house, so you can push and hopefully get him off the split, and or bluff him if you're "deep enough".

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But you don't know that until after the hand is over when the gold card comes out. You can't bet based on it.

It's a minor edge over time because the gold cards are weighted toward low cards and you can presumably get a very small advantage in reading your opponent if you know this. You don't ever actually know that a particular gold card is low, though. And the playing field remains level: he can make the same conclusions about you.

All in all I think it could use a fix, but isn't a big deal. The easiest fix I can come up with is to stockpile the gold cards in HU and very short games and release them all at intervals (half-hour?) or when a player leaves. That way nobody knows what specific hand they came from.

[mupo]

i was in the process of signing up but then i realised u can only do it thru neteller,too much effort y cant u use a credit card?

[Grummin]

We have Credit Card. And, we have FirePay for the non-US folks.

We're trying to figure out which one to hit next for the US croud.

[Grummin]

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read the example given...if it's NL heads up, and you're VERY deep, you know the most the guy has is most likely the 1 card str8, not a full house, so you can push and hopefully get him off the split, and or bluff him if you're "deep enough".

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But you don't know that until after the hand is over when the gold card comes out. You can't bet based on it.

It's a minor edge over time because the gold cards are weighted toward low cards and you can presumably get a very small advantage in reading your opponent if you know this. You don't ever actually know that a particular gold card is low, though. And the playing field remains level: he can make the same conclusions about you.

All in all I think it could use a fix, but isn't a big deal. The easiest fix I can come up with is to stockpile the gold cards in HU and very short games and release them all at intervals (half-hour?) or when a player leaves. That way nobody knows what specific hand they came from.

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I saw the point made about how this can be considered a low-card tip off. However, I would submit the following for discussion:

Let's assume that a $5/$10 NL game is playing HU. That basically puts a Gold Card firing out every 5-9 hands.

A player nabs a Gold Card pre-flop because the other player raised a considerable amount.

The player could have had Ace/Rag, King/Rag, or just [censored]. Either way, the player folded. They're NOT folding high cards. So, very little impact from a Gold Card being awarded.

After the flop, same scenario:
Pre-flop, Player A calls SB, Player B triples the BB and A calls.
4, K, Q rainbow on the flop. Player A bets the pot and B folds (but wins a Gold Card).
You can assume B has a 2 from that, but he also could have had pocket 2's, 3s, 5s, 6s and just didn't like the flop. The Gold Card basically says he most likely didn't have a 4, but only because B's folded.

Since the Gold Card is hidden and Player B NEVER has to reveal what it was to the opponent, no one can know for certain is what I was getting at. It would be a different story is the GC came up during the hand.

Again, set me straight if I'm missing something. I want to make certain that Gold Cards are fun and never alter the way people play the game.

[2461Badugi]

You are missing something, but I'm not sure how to put it any better. I'll extract the key bits:
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over time... you can presumably get a very small advantage in reading your opponents.

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I'm not convinced this is ever going to be actually meaningful. But it's there.

Ah: I have an example. I have a friend who "randomizes" his bluffs by making them when he has nut low or near-nut low. Given this strategy and the gold card weighting, he may get a gold card most of the time that he bluffs, and very rarely when he's not bluffing. That's more or less equivalent to showing his cards.