need help in omaha h/l

[BillytheKidd]

Soo.. Trip report? were you able to avoid major disaster during the O8 and clean up in the holdem?

[walsh313]

Most of the above advice is very good for a quick crash lesson in O8. However if you are planning on playing this game on a regular basis it would be a good idea to do something to speed up the learning curve. Bladwin's section in Super System 2 should work well. Along with learning more about O8 you can use the book to brush up on hold em, or learn a little more about some other poker games(7 stud or hi lo).

[Yourenotreal]

Hello old friend,

Maybe you think it is wise to offer such obvious advice, but I doubt you'd be a winner if all the people in your game read this.

You also seem to have a hard time playing versus these trash hands. Let me educate everyone.

$3/$6 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
Dealt to Schlemazel [6h Qh Kh 9d]
davebreal raises to $18
Schlemazel calls $12
*** FLOP *** [4c 2c Kd]
Schlemazel checks
davebreal bets $18
Schlemazel calls $18
*** TURN *** [4c 2c Kd] [Qs]
Schlemazel checks
davebreal bets $54
Schlemazel raises to $237
davebreal calls $183
*** RIVER *** [4c 2c Kd Qs][Jd]
Schlemazel bets $180
davebreal raises to $327, and is all in
Schlemazel calls $147
*** SHOW DOWN ***
davebreal shows [6c Ad 3h Kc] (a pair of Kings)
Schlemazel shows [6h Qh Kh 9d] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Schlemazel wins the pot ($1,200) with two pair, Kings and Queens[/b]
davebreal adds $600

Nits get crushed in plo8.

[Yourenotreal]

This is very untrue. Good high wraps have approximately 1/2 the EV of good aces for me. Over 300k hands.

I don't feel like educating as much as dave, but KJJ8 is the very slight winning type hand you speak of, KQJTds is almost the nuts against two nits in a raised pot.

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KQJT is marginally profitable BTW. It is an alright hand but you get it so seldom and its profit is relatively small, so playing it isn't essential for being a winning player.


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[T50_Omaha8]

If you mianly play PLO8 and can thus speculate on the cheap, then KQJT is mandatory to play.

I was just letting OP know that open folding that hand is perfectly fine for an inexperienced player.

Anything else you want to nitpick?

Edit to add:
Playing KJJ8 in a full ring LO8 game is just terrible.

[Jim Morgan]

Lets not forget about AA.
AA without help sucks in O8.
Even one nut flush draw is just marginal.
i.e. AsKsAd8c is a very marginal holding.
Maybe someday I'll just fold it and be done with it.

[davebreal]

[ QUOTE ]
Hello old friend,

Maybe you think it is wise to offer such obvious advice, but I doubt you'd be a winner if all the people in your game read this.

You also seem to have a hard time playing versus these trash hands. Let me educate everyone.

$3/$6 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
Dealt to Schlemazel [6h Qh Kh 9d]
davebreal raises to $18
Schlemazel calls $12
*** FLOP *** [4c 2c Kd]
Schlemazel checks
davebreal bets $18
Schlemazel calls $18
*** TURN *** [4c 2c Kd] [Qs]
Schlemazel checks
davebreal bets $54
Schlemazel raises to $237
davebreal calls $183
*** RIVER *** [4c 2c Kd Qs][Jd]
Schlemazel bets $180
davebreal raises to $327, and is all in
Schlemazel calls $147
*** SHOW DOWN ***
davebreal shows [6c Ad 3h Kc] (a pair of Kings)
Schlemazel shows [6h Qh Kh 9d] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Schlemazel wins the pot ($1,200) with two pair, Kings and Queens[/b]
davebreal adds $600

Nits get crushed in plo8.

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I fail to see any point to posting this hand, as you:
a) called a raise with a dominated and trashy hand
b) peeled on the flop when you were extremely way behind
c) raised on the turn when i clearly could not fold a monster 2 way-hand.


keep being a retard and posting your empty "brag" posts, and I will go through PTO for '06 and '07 and post every one of your losing hands I have on record, continue ridiculing you for being on permanent tilt, and finally, probably knock you out if ever see you in real life...

later,
dave

[davebreal]

here's your win/loss roster in '07 so far


..and one hand, just for fun:

FullTiltPoker Game #2069088969: Table Holy Cross - $2/$4 - Pot Limit
Omaha Hi/Lo - 19:09:39 ET - 2007/03/25
Seat 1: davebreal ($569.95)
Seat 2: KPETEH ($101.40)
Seat 3: Sitka Charley ($376.75), is sitting out
Seat 4: I Play Pokher ($389)
Seat 5: Yasttgu ($268.35)
Seat 6: hobea ($0), is sitting out
Seat 7: Schlemazel ($613.15)
Seat 8: carpet47 ($785.40)
Seat 9: 170mmachamp ($398.50)
Yasttgu posts the small blind of $2
Schlemazel posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to davebreal [9c 8d Tc Qh]
carpet47 folds
170mmachamp calls $4
hobea adds $160
davebreal folds
KPETEH folds
I Play Pokher calls $4
Yasttgu folds
Schlemazel raises to $18
170mmachamp raises to $60
I Play Pokher folds
Schlemazel calls $42
*** FLOP *** [5d 4d Kc]
Schlemazel checks
170mmachamp bets $126
Schlemazel raises to $504
170mmachamp calls $212.50, and is all in
Schlemazel shows [As Jc 4s 3c]
170mmachamp shows [Ac 2h 3s Ah]
Uncalled bet of $165.50 returned to Schlemazel
*** TURN *** [5d 4d Kc] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [5d 4d Kc 5h] [5c]
Schlemazel shows three of a kind, Fives, for high
170mmachamp shows a full house, Fives full of Aces, for high
170mmachamp wins the pot ($800) with a full house, Fives full of Aces
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $803 | Rake $3
Board: [5d 4d Kc 5h 5c]
Seat 1: davebreal didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: KPETEH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Sitka Charley is sitting out
Seat 4: I Play Pokher (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Yasttgu (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: hobea is sitting out
Seat 7: Schlemazel (big blind) showed [As Jc 4s 3c] and lost with HI:
three of a kind, Fives
Seat 8: carpet47 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: 170mmachamp showed [Ac 2h 3s Ah] and won ($800) with HI: a
full house, Fives full of Aces

[barney gumble]

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Soo.. Trip report? were you able to avoid major disaster during the O8 and clean up in the holdem?

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In fact, I did better in 08 then holdem. I won a very decent pot with K238, making kings full in a multi way raised pot. In holdem, I took some coolers, and misplayed some pockets. Overall, I lost 200 for the night, not too happy but it coulda been a lot worse ...

[barney gumble]

[ QUOTE ]
here's your win/loss roster in '07 so far




..and one hand, just for fun:

FullTiltPoker Game #2069088969: Table Holy Cross - $2/$4 - Pot Limit
Omaha Hi/Lo - 19:09:39 ET - 2007/03/25
Seat 1: davebreal ($569.95)
Seat 2: KPETEH ($101.40)
Seat 3: Sitka Charley ($376.75), is sitting out
Seat 4: I Play Pokher ($389)
Seat 5: Yasttgu ($268.35)
Seat 6: hobea ($0), is sitting out
Seat 7: Schlemazel ($613.15)
Seat 8: carpet47 ($785.40)
Seat 9: 170mmachamp ($398.50)
Yasttgu posts the small blind of $2
Schlemazel posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to davebreal [9c 8d Tc Qh]
carpet47 folds
170mmachamp calls $4
hobea adds $160
davebreal folds
KPETEH folds
I Play Pokher calls $4
Yasttgu folds
Schlemazel raises to $18
170mmachamp raises to $60
I Play Pokher folds
Schlemazel calls $42
*** FLOP *** [5d 4d Kc]
Schlemazel checks
170mmachamp bets $126
Schlemazel raises to $504
170mmachamp calls $212.50, and is all in
Schlemazel shows [As Jc 4s 3c]
170mmachamp shows [Ac 2h 3s Ah]
Uncalled bet of $165.50 returned to Schlemazel
*** TURN *** [5d 4d Kc] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [5d 4d Kc 5h] [5c]
Schlemazel shows three of a kind, Fives, for high
170mmachamp shows a full house, Fives full of Aces, for high
170mmachamp wins the pot ($800) with a full house, Fives full of Aces
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $803 | Rake $3
Board: [5d 4d Kc 5h 5c]
Seat 1: davebreal didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: KPETEH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Sitka Charley is sitting out
Seat 4: I Play Pokher (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Yasttgu (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: hobea is sitting out
Seat 7: Schlemazel (big blind) showed [As Jc 4s 3c] and lost with HI:
three of a kind, Fives
Seat 8: carpet47 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: 170mmachamp showed [Ac 2h 3s Ah] and won ($800) with HI: a
full house, Fives full of Aces

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lol, how do you compile those stats? kinda funny ud embarrass him with those stats