like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

[bilbo-san]

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The idea that anyone would c/f this river is just baffling.

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I agree that checking the river is bad, but c/f is a better line than c/call. Of course, pushing is better than either.

[rakk]

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Shove river WTF.

Check/call = terrible. Let him check down 99+ and [censored] like 87 and bet flushes. Brilliant.

Bet $40 = terrible. Let him shove flushes and his calling range for $40 is identical to his calling range for $67, or close enough that the EV of shoving is clearly higher. Again, brillaint.

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This is a really good post.

[ChoicestHops]

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Shove river WTF.

Check/call = terrible. Let him check down 99+ and [censored] like 87 and bet flushes. Brilliant.

Bet $40 = terrible. Let him shove flushes and his calling range for $40 is identical to his calling range for $67, or close enough that the EV of shoving is clearly higher. Again, brillaint.

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Well said. I don't have numbers, but it seems it's an easy push and the best way to maximize EV. I don't even really think about it at the table I don't think.

[Noam Chomsky]

this thread is funny. $23 on the turn and shove the river....wtf.

[underthesky]

WTF at check-folding the top set? Shove it all day.

[Grandezza]

uhhh where does it say that he's a calling station? he's 33/11/0 over 30 hands. you realize that guy can a have stats like these and not play like a total monkey post flop? when ppl slowplay i find that by the turn theyve usually thrown in a raise. sure he has two pair/set sometimes but i think he has some bad one pair hand most of the times. the ks is a really bad card for a hand like this so if im valubetting its probably around 50% of the pot. i still prefer check folding tho