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Old 03-27-2006, 02:48 PM
fslexcduck fslexcduck is offline
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Default Re: UB 50/100

weak lead on the turn, he will push his draws v likely and call with pairs where he would have checked behind. as played chk river.
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Old 03-27-2006, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: UB 50/100

To those advocating weak turn/river bets, can you specify amounts?

9,000 is surely a weak turn or river bet here but do you really expect this guy to bluff-raise that considering the ridiculous price he'd be offering me to call?
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:04 PM
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To be honest I don't see why you're not pushing on the turn. You've had an almost perfect flop, and you don't really want to fill up in case he has AA. So push the turn.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:06 PM
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You want to push the turn, so that villain doesn't hit his 1 outer? Thats sound.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:07 PM
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I hate checking the river, as I think he's just gonna be extremely grateful to get a free showdown with nearly all of his holdings.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:09 PM
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There is no reason to check the turn because there is no reason to believe that you are behind, and no one is ever going to try and bluff you out on the turn. Your opponent likely holds another King or a pocket pair and if he is going to call off money, he will do it on the turn. Those saying to check the turn, and then bet the river are using bad logic. If he is calling on the river, then he is calling on the turn. No one checks the turn, then bluffs the river. Nothing changes by checking the turn, which is why it is a mistake.

I think I can now repeat my intial post:

You are in over your head. Stick to 10/20 NL.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:11 PM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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I hate checking the river, as I think he's just gonna be extremely grateful to get a free showdown with nearly all of his holdings.

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I agree with yeti, I think potting the turn is the way to go.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:11 PM
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Actually I doubt he has AA since if he's so aggressive he'd have raised even more pre-flop, not just flat-called the raise.

Anyway pushing the turn makes more sense than checking, even if a half pot-size bet would have been better than either.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: UB 50/100

bet whatever you think hell with his TT or JJ type hand.
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:16 PM
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There is no reason to check the turn because there is no reason to believe that you are behind

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Obviously, we aren't checking the turn because we think we're behind.

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and no one is ever going to try and bluff you out on the turn.

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This is simply not true.
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