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Old 11-25-2007, 11:52 PM
Carmine Carmine is offline
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

I'm never B/F without a very good read that allows me to do so. I'm not C/F against a player where the only note I have says he barrels river UI. That leaves B/C and C/C and I don't like B/C without a read that he raises worse hands. So the winner is.....

That said I probably C/R the flop and get called down by ace hi every time on that board. Well there is some chance that the six outter drops once the FD gets there on the turn. I can't prove that that line is better than C/C every street against an unknown, but I feel that if he keeps initiative he gets to value bet every street when he so chooses and SD cheaply when he chooses
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

With a history of river bluffing..is this not an easy c/c?
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

B/F and B/C seem bad.

I hate folding, so I usually C/C, but I kinda hate calling here since I think he checks hands like AQ and AK on the river.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:12 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

I have no preference on the river becuz theres only one choice in my mind. You played this hand perfectly so far, now check/call the river and go 4/4.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:15 PM
Apanage Apanage is offline
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

I think it is really close between C/C and Bet/F.
If we make villain really stereotyped meaning that he is on river with his entire range. That he calls any A high hand and never bets them if checked too.
At the same time he bluffbets every river with a worse hand when checked too.
Then it seems that if villain bluffraises river less than 1 of 9 times then Bet/folding is better than check/caling.
Lots of if:s and buts though.Not just around his assumed actions but also around my calculations.

I think check/folding is a lot worse since he probably puts in another bet with a bad hand on river because he has no choice and because it lies in his nature.

Equally I think bet/calling is worse because a lot of the hands you´re beating consists of A-high hands and he would be content with just calling them.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

if you bet he will likely to be folding the hands he would bet with that you beat, and only call or raise if he has you beat so you get more value by c/c
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:12 PM
Apanage Apanage is offline
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

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if you bet he will likely to be folding the hands he would bet with that you beat, and only call or raise if he has you beat so you get more value by c/c

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I don´t agree.Almost two thirds of the hands we beat are Ax hands.Why would it be more likely that he bets them when checked to than he is calling a donk bet?
If we eliminate the risk of getting bluffraised it is a very easy bet/fold IMO.But because that is a risk I could think of check/calling.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:02 PM
OGGambler OGGambler is offline
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Default Re: standard river spot with 66

The villain is not the most passive of players. I think the chances of a bluff raise is possible. Given the read we have that he will bluff the river unimproved, I think simply check call. Is our best option. Then comes bet fold, I am not check folding this river. Nice Hand
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