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Old 02-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Stu Pidasso Stu Pidasso is offline
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

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So the answer was yes.

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no, my intention was just to throw the subject out there and see where it went(like the "Should the state force little girls" thread).

but since you did bring up Iran, do you think we should take military action against Iran if they are providing missles to shoot down our copters?

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Old 02-07-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

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It is all Bush's fault.

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In hindsight we should tried to democratize Iraq during the first gulf war.

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Old 02-07-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

i dunno, do we invade russia or china every time they sell weapons to countries we are trying to liberate?
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

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So the answer was yes.

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no, my intention was just to throw the subject out there and see where it went(like the "Should the state force little girls" thread).

but since you did bring up Iran, do you think we should take military action against Iran if they are providing missles to shoot down our copters?

Stu

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That opens up a hole new can of worms with an over-extended military. And a war-exhausted public. The consequences of bombing Iran will probably be worse than not.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

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That opens up a hole new can of worms with an over-extended military. And a war-exhausted public. The consequences of bombing Iran will probably be worse than not.

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So your answer is no.

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Old 02-07-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

I'm all for tracking them down within Iraq.

But the answer is "no" for launching missles at their infrastructure.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

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i dunno, do we invade russia or china every time they sell weapons to countries we are trying to liberate?

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Depends on how much the weapon system threatens us. We were ready to go to war with them over a few missles in Cuba.

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Old 02-07-2007, 06:36 PM
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I think this is the case. Who do you think supplied the missles and what should we do about it?


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Russian made missles sold to Iran.
Iran gives the missles to the insurgents.

What to do?
Cripple the Iranian economy by bombing their oil infrastructure. Light their oil fields up like a birthday cake.

Pros:
No oil. No money. No money to finance Shia insurgents in Iraq.
If we get lucky, the Iranian govt may fall.
No money to finance their nuclear program.
No money to finance Hezbollah in Lebanon...

Cons:
Price of gas goes up a $1 per gallon.
We may need to bomb their fields again assuming they can attract foreign investment to replace their destroyed oil drilling equipment...

Iran has a history of screwing foreign investors to if we do bomb Iran's oil industry, the the Russians may be the only takers to invest in new oil equipment. After 6 months we then we bomb their newly repair oil infrastructure. Russians take a big financial loss and walk back to Moscow with empty pockets. Iran gets on their knees and begs USA to stop promising they will be good. The Shia insurgents lose their sugar daddy and so the USA can concentrate on the Sunni insurgents...
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

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i dunno, do we invade russia or china every time they sell weapons to countries we are trying to liberate?

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Depends on how much the weapon system threatens us. We were ready to go to war with them over a few missles in Cuba.

Stu

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Then ask your question again when the Middle East packs up and moves to the Caribbean.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: What to do? Easy....

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Cripple the Iranian economy by bombing their oil infrastructure. Light their oil fields up like a birthday cake.

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AWESOME idea.

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Iran has a history of screwing foreign investors to if we do bomb Iran's oil industry, the the Russians may be the only takers to invest in new oil equipment. After 6 months we then we bomb their newly repair oil infrastructure. Russians take a big financial loss and walk back to Moscow with empty pockets. Iran gets on their knees and begs USA to stop promising they will be good.

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yep, both the Iranians and the Russians will totally take this lying down. It won't have any averse affects on regional stability or our ability to get energy out of the M.E.

Did you by any chance also draft the plan where the Iraqis welcome us with open arms?
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