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Old 08-13-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

^^who cares, we don't want QQ seeing a flop with 2 others, isolate no matter how much he sucks
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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man if this is the case how are u betting river for value?
...............maybe im retarded but.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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no...

i would play most good tens and JJ-KK like this. i'd also probably bet A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] some % on the turn. and probably not against keyser, but against most i'm betting QQ on the turn again, as well.

as played looks fine. you two have more than enough history for him to call you here with a ton of crap

EDIT: i'm a retard and missed preflop. meh, take out KK and probably say i have QQ like 30% as often, but i still think most of this applies
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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man if this is the case how are u betting river for value?
...............maybe im retarded but.

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The first few responders seemed to think that this is a standard vb, I'm saying its very thin or -EV b/c my hand looks so much like Ax...
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

i think turn is a good spot to bet since you should be double barreling this card a lot. also i think it's an even clearer turn bet w/ AXss.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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This isn't thin at all, if he has a T he's calling you, if he has a busted draw he's folding. Only time you lose here is vs Ax of spades.

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Don't you think my hand looks exactly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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man if this is the case how are u betting river for value?
...............maybe im retarded but.

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The first few responders seemed to think that this is a standard vb, I'm saying its very thin or -EV b/c my hand looks so much like Ax...

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K i agree completely.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

eh? i think this is std as long as his calling range is Tx/etc.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

Results are pretty funny. Keyser folded KK. Value-bluff ftw!
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:40 PM
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Results are pretty funny. Keyser folded KK. Value-bluff ftw!

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what do people think about my fold? I was really confident he had Ax spades, didn't look like a bluff, and there's no way I'm putting him on JJ-KK.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: razor thin vb vs keyser?

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what do people think about my fold? I was really confident he had Ax spades, didn't look like a bluff, and there's no way I'm putting him on JJ-KK.

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Your fold is quite good and disciplined.
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