Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

[adanthar]

shoving here is also bad at a full table. only marginally bad, but bad.

if you are going to play the hand at all this is how to play it. I wouldn't though.

[kleath]

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shoving here is also bad at a full table. only marginally bad, but bad.

if you are going to play the hand at all this is how to play it. I wouldn't though.

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To clarify your saying standard raising is a better way to play it than pushing? It'd be cool if you'd explain that since I definitely disagree if that is indeed what you are saying.

[beset]

HE saying push/fold with ltos more words

[kleath]

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HE saying push/fold with ltos more words

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Oh ok, I wasnt sure he was referring to when he said "this", thought he meant the op.

[FortunaMaximus]

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meh. push/fold preflop.

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Edit: Like how you played it though, OP, wondering how much of the bigstack tilty factor widened your assessment of his range enough to induce this shove. That I'd notice.

[Vuron00]

The tilt factor made the decision much easier. Villain had 800k when I got to the table a few orbits before. He had lost the AK < AJ hand and had raised 3 times already this orbit. He got called by short stack on one of the raises and showed down a small PP. I also had seen him re-raise from the blinds and take down pots. I figured I was a flip to a small PP and 60/40 to Ax. Not to be results oriented, but he had A2o. I flopped a Queen and took down the hand putting me about 14th in chips.

I think that I got the math right on the 2.75:1. The hand history said that I called 185,230 to win 508,460.

[kleath]

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I think that I got the math right on the 2.75:1. The hand history said that I called 185,230 to win 508,460.

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You're counting your call in with what you're going to win, thats where the error is.

[Vuron00]

yep.. you're right.

Also, I agree with everyone saying this is a push/fold hand. Somehow, I didn't really realize that I was so low. This just turns into one of those hands that we have problems with between 12-15BB.

[FortunaMaximus]

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 33.2029 % 32.85% 00.35% { KQo }
Hand 2: 66.7971 % 66.44% 00.35% { 88+, ATs+, AJo+ }

1.75:1 is more accurate, I think, but it's still enough against the above range.

[adanthar]

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HE saying push/fold with ltos more words

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actually I'm not. raise/calling is much better than pushing. but folding is best anyway so here it doesn't much matter.