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Old 09-20-2007, 12:04 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: NL 200 - JTs

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I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

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QFT. I check behind a lot aswell.

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Huh? You check behind on this flop?

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Yes.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: NL 200 - JTs

dont fold the flop, turn is marginal. i think you can fold there
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:12 PM
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I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

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QFT. I check behind a lot aswell.

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Huh? You check behind on this flop?

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This is a great flop for a c-bet. Why would you ever check behind here?
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:15 PM
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I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

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QFT. I check behind a lot aswell.

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Huh? You check behind on this flop?

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Yes.

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This is a great flop for a c-bet. Why would you ever check behind here?

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Yeah a great flop to fold out worse hands and get called by everything better than us.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:17 PM
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KQ beats us now?
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:19 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: NL 200 - JTs

I think a lot of the time people are going to be raising rather than calling with a gutter like KQ and sometimes with the oesd/double gutter and our hand can't stand heat imo.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:21 PM
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I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

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QFT. I check behind a lot aswell.

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Huh? You check behind on this flop?

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Yes.

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Old 09-20-2007, 12:23 PM
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I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

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QFT. I check behind a lot aswell.

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Huh? You check behind on this flop?

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Yes.

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This is a great flop for a c-bet. Why would you ever check behind here?

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Yeah a great flop to fold out worse hands and get called by everything better than us.

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This is pretty bad logic. There are much more pros than cons by betting here, such as folding out a better hand (a weak Ace, J10+, QQ), taking control of the hand, getting info, etc.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: NL 200 - JTs

a random 200nl player? nah i dont think so. I know you like checking behind on alot of flops where our hand is vulnerable jay, and i do too if the board is really drawy. But there is alot of value in a flop bet here. We don't get raised too often.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:24 PM
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I also can't count the number of times people will fire 88, KQ, 76s whatever into me on turn and river when I check the flop. Way more value here than trying to charge a few random straight draws/protect from the 2 overcards.
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