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03-23-2006, 05:45 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
The question is, are you better off open pushing the hand before, regardless of what your hand is?
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03-23-2006, 05:52 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] im not really too thrilled to s'n'g here. mainly b/c i think we have decent fe against the 3rd stack. it would depend on the looseness of the table for me and most importantly if im getting opportunities to open pots. i think id really like a read here. got any? [/ QUOTE ] The table was loose, and I wasn't getting any chances to push. Under these circumstances I'll generally try a stop and go. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, sounds reasonable then. just hate getting tangled up with the biggie without much FE postflop. in times like these i generally look to see if there were any spots before this where i might have missed a razor thin push. [/ QUOTE ] Should I have pushed here? PartyPoker Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t2440) UTG+1 (t2420) CO (t990) Button (t7170) SB (t5090) Hero (t1890) Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls t200, UTG+1 calls t200, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t100,
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#13
03-23-2006, 05:52 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
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The question is, are you better off open pushing the hand before, regardless of what your hand is? [/ QUOTE ] nah, the blinds arent super huge or anything... and we would have to be pushing into the two biggies' blinds.
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#14
03-23-2006, 05:54 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] im not really too thrilled to s'n'g here. mainly b/c i think we have decent fe against the 3rd stack. it would depend on the looseness of the table for me and most importantly if im getting opportunities to open pots. i think id really like a read here. got any? [/ QUOTE ] The table was loose, and I wasn't getting any chances to push. Under these circumstances I'll generally try a stop and go. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, sounds reasonable then. just hate getting tangled up with the biggie without much FE postflop. in times like these i generally look to see if there were any spots before this where i might have missed a razor thin push. [/ QUOTE ] Should I have pushed here? PartyPoker Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t2440) UTG+1 (t2420) CO (t990) Button (t7170) SB (t5090) Hero (t1890) Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls t200, UTG+1 calls t200, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t100, [/ QUOTE ] Again read dependent...but I don't think its a bad idea.
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#15
03-23-2006, 05:57 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
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[ QUOTE ] The question is, are you better off open pushing the hand before, regardless of what your hand is? [/ QUOTE ] nah, the blinds arent super huge or anything... and we would have to be pushing into the two biggies' blinds. [/ QUOTE ] The absolute size of the blinds doesn't matter. The size of the blinds relative to our stack does. And HERO had about 8BB.
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#17
03-23-2006, 06:04 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The question is, are you better off open pushing the hand before, regardless of what your hand is? [/ QUOTE ] nah, the blinds arent super huge or anything... and we would have to be pushing into the two biggies' blinds. [/ QUOTE ] The absolute size of the blinds doesn't matter. The size of the blinds relative to our stack does. And HERO had about 8BB. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, i meant relative blinds by default. maybe i should choose my words more carefully next time [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] . ive never messed around with blind discounting so im not sure but i dont think a push is worth taking ~ -2% EV or whatever so im definitely not shoving any two.
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#18
03-23-2006, 06:26 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
Does any one look for a check raise all in here? i try this once in a while. my thinking is if i open push i will only get called when i am behind and villian will fold when i have him beat. with a check here villian will almost certainly cbet here and thus i will sometimes get all in here ahead and double up combined with the times when he is ahead. thus i win more when he doeant hit and still lose the same when he does hit. is this thinkin flawed? obviously i only do this when i hit something like bottom pair like in this situation. if i dont hit at all i open push so that i have maximum FE.
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#19
03-23-2006, 06:32 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
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Does any one look for a check raise all in here? i try this once in a while. my thinking is if i open push i will only get called when i am behind and villian will fold when i have him beat. with a check here villian will almost certainly cbet here and thus i will sometimes get all in here ahead and double up combined with the times when he is ahead. thus i win more when he doeant hit and still lose the same when he does hit. is this thinkin flawed? obviously i only do this when i hit something like bottom pair like in this situation. if i dont hit at all i open push so that i have maximum FE. [/ QUOTE ] No, check raising all in with bottom pair is a bad idea. You don't want a call even if you have him beat.
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#20
03-23-2006, 06:32 PM
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Re: $33: Time for a stop n go?
Nope. It's not close.
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