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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
Thanks for posting. As I said in another post, his analysis is badly flawed IMO. I don't think Paul would be successful in dumping income taxes entirely but he'd get us going in the right direction.
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
Would be nice to see a rough outline from the ron Paul campaign about what the US Federal Budget would look like if it was up to him. It might be too complicated and time-consuming to do, but it would definatly help when trying to understand what his vision is.
As it is now the "get rid of the IRS" seem too radical for most people, but if he provided an out line of a budget where income taxes were abolished and showed where he would cut government spending and how much he envision a VAT/Fair Tax (if thats something he would like to introduce) would bring in for the government. If people were presented with a rough outline of how Ron Pauls governent would look like it would be easier for people to understand where hes coming from and where hes hoping to go. |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
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Would be nice to see a rough outline from the ron Paul campaign about what the US Federal Budget would look like if it was up to him. It might be too complicated and time-consuming to do, but it would definatly help when trying to understand what his vision is. As it is now the "get rid of the IRS" seem too radical for most people, but if he provided an out line of a budget where income taxes were abolished and showed where he would cut government spending and how much he envision a VAT/Fair Tax (if thats something he would like to introduce) would bring in for the government. If people were presented with a rough outline of how Ron Pauls governent would look like it would be easier for people to understand where hes coming from and where hes hoping to go. [/ QUOTE ] Good points and good post. I think it's fair to say that on constitutional grounds Paul probably has problems with the way the IRS operates. |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
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Would be nice to see a rough outline from the ron Paul campaign about what the US Federal Budget would look like if it was up to him. It might be too complicated and time-consuming to do, but it would definatly help when trying to understand what his vision is. As it is now the "get rid of the IRS" seem too radical for most people, but if he provided an out line of a budget where income taxes were abolished and showed where he would cut government spending and how much he envision a VAT/Fair Tax (if thats something he would like to introduce) would bring in for the government. If people were presented with a rough outline of how Ron Pauls governent would look like it would be easier for people to understand where hes coming from and where hes hoping to go. [/ QUOTE ] It would be nice if Hillary would outline all the budget increases she has envisioned for the country too... but that would be too radical for most people too. And as she put it... "she is not going to deal in hypotheticals" Is'nt that how most people choose a candidate is by what they will do in various hypothetical situations? |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
True, that would be nice too. But I believe more people feel that Hillarys economic reforms are less radical than Ron Pauls, and therefore are less likely to scare away potential voters thinking that her economic vision is unrealistic.
And you put the "to radical too" in the wrong place, because I did not state that Ron Pauls budget would look too radical for most people, I said that for now the idea of completely getting rid of the IRS seem too radical for people, and therefore a budget-outline could make it seem less radical if he could show how it would work. But the more information the candidates can provide of how they envision their presidency the better. |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
2008 budget: $2.9 trillion
2001 budget: $1.8 trillion Here's a start: Stop the wars. Start closing overseas bases. Take 2001 budget and change the 1 to a 9. |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
I don't get why people aren't more troubled about this. Getting rid of the IRS is one of the centerpieces of his campaign, as well as one of the hugest policy changes in the last 50 years. Many of the arguments he's using to support it are misleading at best, and false in a lot of cases. When I started a thread about this a month ago, a lot of RP supporters believed that the IT could be completely eliminated just by cutting some discretionary funding. Probably better than 90% of RP supporters now still believe that. And we still have no specifics on what "Dr. Paul" would replace the income tax with.
It's really kind of frightening. Just because the guy says he loves the Constitution doesn't mean you should automatically trust him when he makes vague, misleading statements to explain why he should be given an enormous amount of power. |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
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I don't get why people aren't more troubled about this. Getting rid of the IRS is one of the centerpieces of his campaign, as well as one of the hugest policy changes in the last 50 years. Many of the arguments he's using to support it are misleading at best, and false in a lot of cases. When I started a thread about this a month ago, a lot of RP supporters believed that the IT could be completely eliminated just by cutting some discretionary funding. Probably better than 90% of RP supporters now still believe that. And we still have no specifics on what "Dr. Paul" would replace the income tax with. It's really kind of frightening. Just because the guy says he loves the Constitution doesn't mean you should automatically trust him when he makes vague, misleading statements to explain why he should be given an enormous amount of power. [/ QUOTE ] Completely eliminating the income tax would only cut our spending back to 199X levels. Ron would cut more spending than that. No need to replace it with anything. |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
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[ QUOTE ] I don't get why people aren't more troubled about this. Getting rid of the IRS is one of the centerpieces of his campaign, as well as one of the hugest policy changes in the last 50 years. Many of the arguments he's using to support it are misleading at best, and false in a lot of cases. When I started a thread about this a month ago, a lot of RP supporters believed that the IT could be completely eliminated just by cutting some discretionary funding. Probably better than 90% of RP supporters now still believe that. And we still have no specifics on what "Dr. Paul" would replace the income tax with. It's really kind of frightening. Just because the guy says he loves the Constitution doesn't mean you should automatically trust him when he makes vague, misleading statements to explain why he should be given an enormous amount of power. [/ QUOTE ] Completely eliminating the income tax would only cut our spending back to 199X levels. Ron would cut more spending than that. No need to replace it with anything. [/ QUOTE ] NO IT WOULDN'T!! RON PAUL IS LYING WHEN HE SAYS THIS!! (and I guarantee when he says that he's planning to tax 2009 dollars and spend them in 1998) Look at the numbers. Setting payroll taxes and SS aside, money raised from non-income tax sources wouldn't cover interest payments. |
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Re: Washington Post Fact Checker Questions Paul\'s plans.
Article implies that he would keep corporate taxes. Is that right? SS is scheduled to run a shortfall in about 10 years so something would have to change there.
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