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Old 11-26-2007, 03:27 PM
Stonewalled Stonewalled is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KK flop decision

By the way, I was on the button -- I mistakenly said BB in the original post.
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KK flop decision

Just shove. I like $100 straight preflop.
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KK flop decision

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1/2 NL live, 10-handed, at St. Louis Harrah's.

3 Villains in this hand are all loose old guys who play marginal hands, and take them too far. The one who raises on the flop is very aggro, raising a bunch of pots and playing junk for a lot of money. The others are very passive.

My image is TAG, and I've shown-down only good hands.

My stack is $550. The 2 loose/passives have about $150 each. The 1 loose/aggro has me covered.

Hero has KK in BB.
Preflop: Loose/passive #1 is UTG and raises to $15, gets 3 callers, including loose/aggro in MP, and loose/passive #2 to my right, Hero raises to $75 (I meant to make a psb raise, but I miscalculated the pot), the 3 Villains call.

Flop (4 players) ($320 pot): Q93 rainbow
Loose/passive #1 bets $10, loose/aggro raises to $60, loose/passive #2 calls, Hero ???

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$120 to go pre-flop with the intention of getting it all-in on any flop without an Ace (unless the 1st loose passive reraises you all-in, then consider folding). I'd be happy if everybody folded and you pickup $63 without a fight.

As played, $75 is close enough, but makes the shove more uncomfortable for me (i.e. not automatic). As played, get it all-in. Cry and reload if you see a set, be happy if you see AQ, pray if you see Q9, stand up + pelvic thrust if you see KQ or worse, and look confused + amused if you see AA.

As an aside, when I'm considering stuff like this live, just figure out what the pot is (4*15=$60 is close enough) and double it rather than figuring out what a pot-sized raise would be. Folks will call you much looser than online.
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