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#1
10-10-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: Rivered my wheel but this doesn\'t smell too good
Why wouldn't 32ss 3bet the river? We'd have to have exactly 54ss for him to be behind.
I think you have to call with pot odds given as he could show up with the same hand a high % of the time and maybe even a9 sometimes. 
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#2
10-10-2007, 01:59 PM
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Re: Rivered my wheel but this doesn\'t smell too good
Does he pot K2ss/J3ss and stuff like that on the flop? Does he complete with those hands preflop?
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#3
10-10-2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: Rivered my wheel but this doesn\'t smell too good
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] why cant he have the nuts? [/ QUOTE ] sure he can, if he potted flop into two people with KsXs. i'm mainly wondering if I win this 20% or 25% or whatever it takes to call, and if my line in the rest of the hand was most appropriate for the situation [/ QUOTE ] I would pot it with a flush draw in his spot... [/ QUOTE ] the spades came backdoor, i dont think you pot flops with all your backdoor flush draws this hand is super weird, 32ss makes sense but no way he 3 bets river. i might just call because i couldn't figure out wtf he has. [/ QUOTE ] oh, woiw, good call, lol. id pot it with a normal flush draw, not the backdoor variety, of course! anyway i said earlier to call and this doesnt change it.
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#4
10-10-2007, 03:31 AM
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Re: Rivered my wheel but this doesn\'t smell too good
How can he possibly have spades here?
vs. him I would not consider folding this
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#6
10-10-2007, 03:16 AM
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Re: Rivered my wheel but this doesn\'t smell too good
3s2s seem pretty likely. I don't know what hands he can bluff 3-bet this river besides missed [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s given that he bet both the flop and the turn pretty strong? A bluff looks pretty thin when laying like 4:1 on the river, but your hand looks like a draw also. I call because of potodds and a slight chance of getting bluffed.
Not sure I like flop and turn though because your outs might not be good. It's ok if villain plays straightforward postflop and don't make good/thin valuebets, i.e. giving us bluffouts with diamonds. [ QUOTE ] And also, because I'm a little curious and a little sick in the head, how deep do we have to be before you'd like a river 4-bet bluffshove? Cause I think that would be sexy. [/ QUOTE ] I don't like this at all. What better hands are you trying to make him fold? The spades are backdoor, he isn't gonna believe both of you got there and he is never folding the flush.
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#10
10-10-2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Rivered my wheel but this doesn\'t smell too good
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No 1 3-bets the river w/ air, esp. to the amount he did. He has 3Xss or 2Xss a lot. I like a fold. [/ QUOTE ] who three bets with these hands in this spot? does he ever get paid off? this is sick thin value if that's the case. there also aren't that many combinations of 2xss or 3xss that make sense.
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