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Re: DESPERATE - LINE CHECKS NEEDED
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MasterLJ - we have position, we dont need to raise that much bigger. In fact my 10/20 friends who look over my hands actually kept commenting that betting pot IP was a big big, and they usually do 3x. [/ QUOTE ] I feel like I should respond to this but don't know what else to say besides what I've already said. I've found that at SSNL people don't think "I will call a 3x pot raise, but not a 4x pot raise," it's more likely to be a binary decision "I will call a raise, I won't call a raise." I think it's one of the most exploitable properties of the average SSNL. To give a specific example, I see HH of people all day long that are not betting pot against calling stations. This is a huge huge leak. You are literally leaving money on the table. When you have any reasonable hand against a station bet pot at all times post-flop and raise them huge pre-flop with your monsters. Think about it this way. You hold AA, villain is a 90/1 and limps UTG, what reason do you have for not making it $12? |
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Re: DESPERATE - LINE CHECKS NEEDED
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Think about it this way. You hold AA, villain is a 90/1 and limps UTG, what reason do you have for not making it $12? [/ QUOTE ] Why not $14? 15? 16? 20? shove? You have to draw the line somewhere. |
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Re: DESPERATE - LINE CHECKS NEEDED
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[ QUOTE ] Think about it this way. You hold AA, villain is a 90/1 and limps UTG, what reason do you have for not making it $12? [/ QUOTE ] Why not $14? 15? 16? 20? shove? You have to draw the line somewhere. [/ QUOTE ] You test it by ramping up and find their limit. If you knew you'd still get called by raising to $20, then raise to $20. It's pretty simple. You have to test your limits of value. I think most pre-flop stations will call up to $10 after limping pretty often. I have actually been in live situations where I pushed big pp in unraised pots and got callers. |
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Re: DESPERATE - LINE CHECKS NEEDED
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Think about it this way. You hold AA, villain is a 90/1 and limps UTG, what reason do you have for not making it $12? [/ QUOTE ] Why not $14? 15? 16? 20? shove? You have to draw the line somewhere. [/ QUOTE ] You test it by ramping up and find their limit. If you knew you'd still get called by raising to $20, then raise to $20. It's pretty simple. You have to test your limits of value. I think most pre-flop stations will call up to $10 after limping pretty often. I have actually been in live situations where I pushed big pp in unraised pots and got callers. [/ QUOTE ] If I have any thinking players on the table, they get a read out of my play if I change the pre-flop raise-sizing. When in a heads-up pot with said station, then I can take completely obscure and ridiculous lines I wouldn't normally take and it doesn't matter to nearly the same extent.. correct? |
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Re: DESPERATE - LINE CHECKS NEEDED
If you mean "ridiculous lines HU against a station/donk," then yes.
Even if thinking players pick up on it it's not terrible since you are only doing this with premium hands anyway. |
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Re: DESPERATE - LINE CHECKS NEEDED
Everything looks pretty good except betsizing in H1 and call in 5, neither of which are huge leaks.
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Re: DESPERATE - LINE CHECKS NEEDED
bump - not that I don't appreciate all the advice given thus far, just looking for as many angles as possible [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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