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Old 04-17-2006, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: $114 hand vs. Ryanghall

I'm confused. Doesn't ryan reraise any monster here? Except maybe AA, but a lot of people don't even do that. I say you can call and bet a safe flop, or push. I guess I lean towards #1, just in case someone behind me wakes up.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:41 PM
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I'm confused. Doesn't ryan reraise any monster here? Except maybe AA, but a lot of people don't even do that. I say you can call and bet a safe flop, or push. I guess I lean towards #1, just in case someone behind me wakes up.

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Why would ryan re-raise QQ-AA here? That's terrible poker playing. Actually, he shouldn't re-raise any hand that he calls with here. I think that ryan is calling this with TT+/AKo+ considering there are 6 other people behind him, I would think he folds 99 and lower/AQ-.

Folding jacks here would probably be the correct play.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:47 PM
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I'm confused. Doesn't ryan reraise any monster here? Except maybe AA, but a lot of people don't even do that. I say you can call and bet a safe flop, or push. I guess I lean towards #1, just in case someone behind me wakes up.

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Why would ryan re-raise QQ-AA here? That's terrible poker playing. Actually, he shouldn't re-raise any hand that he calls with here. I think that ryan is calling this with TT+/AKo+ considering there are 6 other people behind him, I would think he folds 99 and lower/AQ-.

Folding jacks here would probably be the correct play.

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What? You really want 2+ more callers to your QQ? I don't even like to see that with AA. I feel like I won the lottery if my AA holds up 3-way. UTG+1's range is something like 15-20% here I would think. Did he just lose his chips on the previous hand? If so then he could be a lot wider than that. This widens ryans range a TON, and widens the range of those acting behind him. To me, his call here means he has a good hand, that he wants to see if he can get UTG's chips, but is a little scared of someone waking up behind him. Flat-calling with QQ would be horrible IMO.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:49 PM
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I'm confused. Doesn't ryan reraise any monster here? Except maybe AA, but a lot of people don't even do that. I say you can call and bet a safe flop, or push. I guess I lean towards #1, just in case someone behind me wakes up.

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Why would ryan re-raise QQ-AA here? That's terrible poker playing. Actually, he shouldn't re-raise any hand that he calls with here. I think that ryan is calling this with TT+/AKo+ considering there are 6 other people behind him, I would think he folds 99 and lower/AQ-.

Folding jacks here would probably be the correct play.

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What? You really want 2 more callers to your QQ? UTG+1's range is something like 15-20% here I would think. Did he just lose his chips on the previous hand? If so then he could be a lot wider than that. This widens ryans range a TON, and widens the range of those acting behind him. To me, his call here means he has a good hand, that he wants to see if he can get UTG's chips, but is a little scared of someone waking up behind him. Flat-calling with QQ would be horrible IMO.

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You're terrible. I'm not even going to discuss why you're wrong.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: $114 hand vs. Ryanghall

against random donk i'd see a flop, I think we're behind Ryan's range here a lot of the time.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:56 PM
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Ryanghall is utg+1

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Ryanghall's stars SN is "UTG+1". Consider that one "noted"!!!!

Gotcha ryan!!! hahahahha
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: $114 hand vs. Ryanghall

I had QQ.

I should have perhaps reraised preflop, but it's close. Once eagles pushed, I put him on KK/AA so I folded.

I'm quite surprised he pushed JJ, as I think it's an easy fold.

Ryan
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:06 PM
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If we know he is folding QQ. What does are shoving range become?
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Old 04-17-2006, 04:08 PM
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Hold that point.

I think it's pretty hard to assume that anyone is folding QQ here so it really doesn't matter.

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Old 04-17-2006, 04:10 PM
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Hold that point.

I think it's pretty hard to assume that anyone is folding QQ here so it really doesn't matter.

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Obv. But you do see what I'm getting at also, hence why folding JJ here is the best move.
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