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Old 06-11-2007, 12:40 AM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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You're all wrong. ;-)

The answer is that it does matter but we don't know.

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i'm curious why you think it matters. after the initial shock of death, who would be seriously affected - whose life would be worse off or significantly different? haven't these deaths this season served to show that in the end all these people will be who they are regardless of what transpires around them?
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

The answer is obvious: Tony doesn't die.

The next person to walk through the door is obviously Meadow ... then they all sit down for a nice family dinner. Their lives go "on and on and on and on ..." (as the music chants).



Make way for The Sopranos movie, hitting theaters some time in the next 2-3 years!!!


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Old 06-11-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

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The answer is obvious: Tony doesn't die.


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Assuming Tony is alive, what is the point of the ten second black screen and silence?
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

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can there be an option for 'it doesn't matter'?

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QFT. If your making this poll you just don't understand the Sopranos.

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Get over yourself.

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lol
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

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The answer is obvious: Tony doesn't die.


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Assuming Tony is alive, what is the point of the ten second black screen and silence?

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Suspense and excitement. Which is what the viewer wanted, but Chase knew he couldn't give us that in forms of blood and guts since the ending had to be "life goes on" all along. I think the blank screen and no music over the credits also was a service to everyone that worked on the show as it made me sit through the credits and see everyone's names and [censored].
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:50 AM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

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You're all wrong. ;-)

The answer is that it does matter but we don't know.

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i'm curious why you think it matters. after the initial shock of death, who would be seriously affected - whose life would be worse off or significantly different? haven't these deaths this season served to show that in the end all these people will be who they are regardless of what transpires around them?

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At least ever since Tony got shot, and especially in Season 6, the Sopranos has been a pretty damn existentialist show. So I think that's where Chase was trying to go with the ending.

If you ask an existentialist whether God exists, he won't say "it doesn't matter." Instead, he'd say something like: "God exists to the extent that you believe in his existence", or "I don't know. Does it matter to you?". The fact that there is not a definitive answer to the question does not render the question moot; on the contrary, the lack of a definitive answer might be thought of as liberating in certain ways. Existentialism does not equal nihilism, it's just that it takes the locus of truth and places it within the individual, rather than outside of him.

Also, think about the Journey song that was playing in the background when the show ended. The the title to that song is "Don't Stop Believing", a phrase which is repeated as a chorus many times throughout the song. And then just as the show ends, Chase cuts the last lyric out of the song. So you have, essentially,

don't stop believing
don't stop believing
don't stop-
[fade to black]

So you have the narrator literally playing God ("don't stop believing"), and then, just at very moment when you're wanting him to play God the most, all you get is "don't stop", which of course is exactly what the audience is screaming at their TV set!

It's as if Chase is saying "all right, kids, playtime is over, and you're going to have to figure this one out for yourselves now". That doesn't mean he's saying it doesn't matter whether Tony died. He's just saying he's done playing God -- so (1) whether Tony died or not; (2) whether it matters whether Tony died or not -- is up for us to determine.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

What's that line Bobby (or maybe Tony?) said in the boat about how you don't even hear it when the bullet comes for you?

That's how it seemed to me - abruptly, unexpectedly, a million viewers got capped. The Sopranos' story goes on, but we're no longer privy.
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

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The answer is obvious: Tony doesn't die.


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Assuming Tony is alive, what is the point of the ten second black screen and silence?

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the life of the soprano family as we know it is no more. some changes for the better. some for the worse. it's over. cut to black.
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:56 AM
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Its the greatest ending in TV history and no one gets it. TONY DIES THERE IS NO OTHER REASONABLE WAY TO INTERPRET THE SCENE. It doesnt fade away with all 4 of them sitting at the table. It cuts to black MID scene before they are all even seated. Tony got hit there. We dont know by who, but we know 100% that he is dead.
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Sopranos Finale - Last Scene Poll ***SPOILER***

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Its the greatest ending in TV history and no one gets it. TONY DIES THERE IS NO OTHER REASONABLE WAY TO INTERPRET THE SCENE. It doesnt fade away with all 4 of them sitting at the table. It cuts to black MID scene before they are all even seated. Tony got hit there. We dont know by who, but we know 100% that he is dead.

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6 hours later, i really really really agree with this. does anybody have any screen caps of meadow's face before it cut to black?
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