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Old 08-20-2007, 09:22 PM
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river shove is pretty awesome if u decided to call pf/flop/turn

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Yea, I think that is fine. We can easily rep the flush now.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: My calldown vs DerekJC

shove>fold>call on the end and i'm a station
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: My calldown vs DerekJC

your range of AQ/flush/air is pretty bad imo. He could have AK, 2pair, set as well
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: My calldown vs DerekJC

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He could have AK, 2pair, set as well

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Wouldn't this be an agrument for pushing?
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:37 PM
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If his range is set, big ace, flush, 2 pair, air and you shove, is he folding everything but the flush? Are you repping a flush if you shove? 5xdd? KJdd? Do you routinely call two streets with naked flush draws?
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:42 PM
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If his range is set, big ace, flush, 2 pair, air and you shove, is he folding everything but the flush? Are you repping a flush if you shove? 5xdd? KJdd? Do you routinely call two streets with naked flush draws?

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Yea, the problem is he could easily call with a set given his pot odds. Also, the ace being out means the combinations of fds we could have are a lot lower.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:46 PM
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If his range is set, big ace, flush, 2 pair, air and you shove, is he folding everything but the flush? Are you repping a flush if you shove? 5xdd? KJdd? Do you routinely call two streets with naked flush draws?

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op said he prob views op as getting attached to hands very easily
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:50 PM
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If his range is set, big ace, flush, 2 pair, air and you shove, is he folding everything but the flush? Are you repping a flush if you shove? 5xdd? KJdd? Do you routinely call two streets with naked flush draws?

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op said he prob views op as getting attached to hands very easily

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Oh yeah forgot, that makes the bluffing EV go way down.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:52 PM
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If I were villain and I had Aces up or a set and I bet this river and villain shoved it would be a sick spot, but I dunno if I would fold. Maybe I would, but to be honest, when we two barrel huge hands and the flush card hits, I can easily level myself into bet/calling.

Now, to try and give someone ELSE enough credit to bet/fold a big hand on this river seems ludicrous.
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:32 PM
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After you call the flop and turn, should he really be concerned about a flush?

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