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Re: I fold trips
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When I played 10NL there last month, I thought they were mostly lagtards who will push with K2o here. Seriously. When I started calling more, I was amazed about how much these guys love to bluff. But I wasn't there and see how the session developed. [/ QUOTE ] Which site did you play on? |
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Re: I fold trips
Yes. And I think I have the best hand here often enough to do it. But I only do it against the usual FTP 40/25/4 player. Not against the 17/6/1.8.
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Re: I fold trips
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On 10NL? Yes. Any PP probably. [/ QUOTE ]Plus, given the preflop action if villain has an A we should expect it to be AT or worse. If we assume its not A3 then we have 14 outs to win or chop when he has AT, 26 outs to win or chop when he has A7, and obviously we are very likely to chop or win when he has A2/A4/A5. I don't like the spot and if we know he has an A its an EV- line but I'll call it down given the wider range. |
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Re: I fold trips
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Yes. And I think I have the best hand here often enough to do it. But I only do it against the usual FTP 40/25/4 player. Not against the 17/6/1.8. [/ QUOTE ] Let's assume villain has a pocket pair a fair portion of the time. I assume we are calling the turn, and check/calling the river? When villain has an ace we get stacked. When villain has a pocket pair he checks behind with his showdown value on the river, and we don't get to stack him. Get my drift? |
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Re: I fold trips
I agree with this line moreso than he is raising with a non A.
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Re: I fold trips
I have to agree with Thac. If you call the flop raise then fold the turn, you should just fold to his raise on the flop.
I think you called because you had an idea he might raise something other than an Ace. If thats the case, you should continue calling. |
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Re: I fold trips
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I think you called because you had an idea he might raise something other than an Ace. If thats the case, you should continue calling. [/ QUOTE ] Calling the flop was probably a mistake IMO. I can't really see villain raising a pocket pair. That's just me though, I am here to learn. |
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Re: I fold trips
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[ QUOTE ] Yes. And I think I have the best hand here often enough to do it. But I only do it against the usual FTP 40/25/4 player. Not against the 17/6/1.8. [/ QUOTE ] Let's assume villain has a pocket pair a fair portion of the time. I assume we are calling the turn, and check/calling the river? When villain has an ace we get stacked. When villain has a pocket pair he checks behind with his showdown value on the river, and we don't get to stack him. Get my drift? [/ QUOTE ] Well, my personal experience with FTP's 10NL is that I push this turn and be probably best. If villain is actually playing tightly, a fold certainly isn't terrible. You didn't provide any details about villain so it is hard to put him on a hand. He's certainly repping an A. But he could be on a flushdraw just as much if he is aggressive enough. |
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Re: I fold trips
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Calling the flop was probably a mistake IMO. I can't really see villain raising a pocket pair. That's just me though, I am here to learn. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure you had a better feel of the situation than any of us. Having just moved up from NL10 (and spending a fair number of hands there) I do agree that most players at this level do not get aggressive without strong hands. However, the players do tend to get more out of line on the flop than any other street, and I have indeed called for stacks in situations where I figured the only logical hands opponent could have beat me, to discover they had made some crazy play with a pocket pair. The fact that this is a paired board makes it more likely hes getting out of line. |
#20
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Re: I fold trips
Calling the flop and seeing if the guy fires the turn has some merit IMO.
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