200NL - Interesting flop spot I think

[delta k]

um if he's going to cc w/ QQ here instead of 4 bet then he must c/f this flop, IMO

[wdead]

why?

[willw9]

Yea I don't get that either.

[Panthro]

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um if he's going to cc w/ QQ here instead of 4 bet then he must c/f this flop, IMO

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You'd be surprised how often even 2p2'rs will peel w/ QQ here. But I do agree with you in the sense that if hero is betting this flop he's representing a better hand than QQ.

[wdead]

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um if he's going to cc w/ QQ here instead of 4 bet then he must c/f this flop, IMO

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You'd be surprised how often even 2p2'rs will peel w/ QQ here. But I do agree with you in the sense that if hero is betting this flop he's representing a better hand than QQ.

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i would bet this flop is 9 high all day long

[delta k]

if he's not 4betting QQ pf it's to find a favorable flop before investing more $.

K high flops =/= favorable

[wdead]

or its to let hero cbet or even 2barrel with air, which he intends to call

[delta k]

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or its to let hero cbet or even 2barrel with air, which he intends to call

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seems like he's stacking himself- why are we putting hero on 'air' after rr the flop and potting the K high flop/turn? Lol

[mdkrahn]

I think a flop barrel folds QQ alot.
IME, ppl play a lot more straight forward (nitty) in pots that were 3bet preflop.
That's also why I think firing 2barrels would be spew.

[yad]

BB's range here depends a lot on what he thinks of UTG, and to a lesser extent of you. I play in the general vicinity of 24/19, and I can tell you that I don't have a "range" for coldcalling a 3bet like this. My hand is a lot less important than the players involved. Against some folks I will coldcall any pocket pair and AK/AQs, against others I am not coldcalling anything.