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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I love when hands like that fold, as I am getting ready to make a crying call I life my two cards inbetween my right index finger and middle finger while using my left hand to throw in the chips attempting to instafold when they table thier hand. Then I move on and laugh at how bad they are regardless of them winning the hand [/ QUOTE ] What the hell is this? [/ QUOTE ] Deebish. [/ QUOTE ] deeb spell check did'nt even make an attempt |
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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
In the thread you reference, you only have to be good 18% of the time for the call to be cEV+.
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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
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In the thread you reference, you only have to be good 18% of the time for the call to be cEV+. [/ QUOTE ] Right, I wasn't wanting this thread to be about that specific hand, but the general feeling of "i know i'm beat, i call" in spots where you may or may not be getting good pot odds. I think eagles brings up a very good point. Maybe we need to learn to play the hands as poker and not follow rules. I know there are still some rules I follow that probably have carried over from my beginners days that are most definitely hindering my play. |
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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
What I mean when I say this is we are obviously a big dog to have the best hand but we are getting a good enough price. In the Scotty hand for example we're obviously beat like 75% of the time at least so of course we expect to be shown a better hand, but we aregetting the price to call. If I thought we were <18% to win I would say fold. In retrospect that hand may have been a fold though...
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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
You should ask the limit players, that's the kind of question they have to answer all day
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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
this thread shouldnt have died so fast.
While I thought the hand with bond v.s. scotty was a fold on the end, tons of players better than me all said they would have called. I couldnt see how scotty could minraise there giving such good odds on a bluff or extremely thin value bet. That night I saw a similar hand from this years wsop where scotty (with K high) check raises Kirk whatever his name is on an A hi board, Kirk bet 5k on the end with AT (1 pair) and scotty check raised to 25k... this is one of those spots where you would typically think there is no way that my one pair is good but the difference was the size of the checkraise and it looked a bit bluffier than the hand v.s. bond and is very different in that regard. One of my major leaks is that I can be a huge station, sometimes I just NEED to see it. And when youre a huge station sometimes you make some sick calls and get rewarded, but most of the time you look like an idiot and regret it. Its those rare times that we are right and obv looked into their soul that keep us coming back for more, even when we 'know' we're beat theres always that tiny chance. Anyway, I really just wanted to keep this thread going and see some more discussion. /ramble |
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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
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Maybe we need to learn to play the hands as poker and not follow rules. [ QUOTE ] Following some general guideline is pretty hard, especially in tournament poker. |
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Re: I know I\'m beat... I call?!?
Fold.
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