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Re: Razz - Value river raise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you are going to call 3 bets, don't raise. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree with this. There are several situations where folding to a 3-bet is the correct play. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, folding to three bets is the correct play. Therefore If you ARE NOT going to fold to three bets, don't raise. (Didn't I already say that?) [/ QUOTE ] I think you two are in violent agreement [/ QUOTE ] I worded it two different ways. Let, you need to go over what I am saying more carefully. Point one---it is a VALUE raise, therefor a slight money favorite. Point two---If we are slight money favs to raise, we are huge dogs to the three bet. Point three---therefore we must fold to three bets. Point four---So our profit from the river comes from value raising and mucking to the 3rd bet. Point five---If you are going to call three bets, repeat, if you cannot lay this hand down for three bets, THAT is when you should not raise. You seem to think I am saying to call the three bets, and I am not. Many players just cannot lay down their hands for that last bet. If you know you just have to see the other guys hand, then you should not be raising. Last try. Raising river and being called, need to be a slight fav, risking 1 extra bet in an attempt to win 1. Raising river and willing to call reraise, risking 2 bets to win 1. In the latter scenario you need to be a much larger fav. If you tell me one more time that I can fold to three bets I will make a voodoo doll of you and check raise it for a solid month. |
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
No voodoo please! I understand what you are saying much better now...thank you for the breakdown. Class isn't condusive to thinking, apparently [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
Hero is somewhere around a 58% favorite to win this hand, I raise & fold to a 3-bet
UNLESS the villain is tricky and unpredictable, then a call is fine. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] |
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