yet another river checkraise - Page 2

Phresh · #11 10-10-2007, 07:06 AM

craig,

Do you really think Luego made this move because he thinks it won't fold out better hands or something?

OP,

I think it's good as I'm CRAI on this river with a flush whenever I have it and I'm gonna have it more than he will here IMO. He also has to VB that river a lot and his line is consistent with not flush or boat hands.

Also, how often do you CR a flush draw on this flop?

craig1120 · #12 10-10-2007, 07:15 AM

I'm saying since I don't think villain ever has a hand better than what OP is repping, then villain's entire range is a bluffcatcher.

So, it doesn't really matter how strong villain's range is. Deciding whether or not this is good should be determined by other things.

lkjhgfdsa · #13 10-10-2007, 07:18 AM

OP, are you really check-calling this flop w/ sets/top2/and FD?
And would u check-shove on the river hands like 78?

Phresh · #14 10-10-2007, 07:18 AM

Villain will check behind lots of things and VB them on the river that are better than 88, IMO. Either way, it's not Leugo is a donk. He obviously considered that his hand might be a bluff catcher and decided shoving is better.

craig1120 · #15 10-10-2007, 07:22 AM

you're misunderstanding my posts

jfish · #16 10-10-2007, 08:11 AM

standard

Phresh · #17 10-10-2007, 08:37 AM

craig,

I don't think so, but whatever.

olof86 · #18 10-10-2007, 09:02 AM

like

luegofuego · #19 10-10-2007, 09:56 AM

phresh,

i will c/c a flushdraw a decent amount. i may decrease that frequency on this board texture tho. i would also checkraise the river allin with 7x or better most of the time. but that doesnt really matter all that much. i just like my line since a) i will get to showdown my decently solid hand and win a lot when he checks back his AK or 33 or whatever, and b) wtf is he gonna put me on to bluffcatch my shove? missed draw...? naked one card gutter checkcalling drawy flop? only hands i could be bluffraising with here is 88-TT or so and for that to make sense he has to believe that first of all, i didn't three-bet them preflop and second of all, am perceptive and creative enough to turn them into a bluff when i suspect i am beat. no hands worse than trips make any sense for me at all here imo. this is far from important than any silly meta game considerations craig tries to argue for.

i get the suspicion that craig1120 was villain in this hand and is subtly trying to defend his call. u suck at posting, villain.

FionnMac · #20 10-10-2007, 09:58 AM

yeh this is good.