i have a draw, 25/50 nl live--opinions on all streets welcome

[fslexcduck]

i don't think the river is a fold because sometimes when i think someone's a calling station i'll just go all in if i want to bluff them rather than betting pot or less. and i don't think it looks like dave has a flush here. but sure if your read is "he looked like he had a flush" and that's accurate then fine fold whatever, but that's a pretty retarded thing to say, even coming from someone who plays a lot of live poker.

[jcmoussa]

Does this overbet mean the nuts though? im a donkey, i call here after the line you took.

[dlpnyc21]

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raise the flop, you are 400bb deep in position with a good draw

the river seems like a trivially easy fold assuming your read is right (you look like a station and overbets are almost NEVER bluffs)

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J,
if you are raising this flop, I assume it's to something like 3.5k. What are you doing then if he raises to 9k? Shoving, folding, or calling? I'm not saying it's wrong to raise here, I definitely contemplated it, it's just that I wasn't sure what to do if he reraised (I guess it's an ez fold??). Thanks,
dlpnyc21

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raise the flop, you are 400bb deep in position with a good draw

the river seems like a trivially easy fold assuming your read is right (you look like a station and overbets are almost NEVER bluffs)

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J,
if you are raising this flop, I assume it's to something like 3.5k. What are you doing then if he raises to 9k? Shoving, folding, or calling? I'm not saying it's wrong to raise here, I definitely contemplated it, it's just that I wasn't sure what to do if he reraised (I guess it's an ez fold??). Thanks,
dlpnyc21

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folding usually, but you're not going to get reraised very often at all

[lapoker17]

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[DeMaci]

How can you fold the river? He could be vaule shoving worse hands against what he sees as a calling station.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I take OP's word for the fact that this guy is a huge winner, but even then (unless he's Jason Strasser) people usually overbet only nuts/air. So if it's not air...

I highly doubt you see J high flush here...

[cameronbarry]

gonna go ahead and say follow your read and pitch the hand.

you say you reason that he isn't ever bluffing, and you also say your read on him physically is that he is not bluffing. additionally he knows that you like to call him light, and in your and my, and in pretty much everyone's experience live massive river overbet shoves are pretty much always the nuts.

couple all that with the fact that your play is consistent with a flush draw,

i think you get shown some combo of the nuts damn near 100% of the time.

[BobboFitos]

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