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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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per street agg factors are 3.71/1.25/1.11 [/ QUOTE ] meh, for some reason I thought he was aggro. Seems like he will check a lot of stuff behind. If you bet will he fold QQ? If he calls with QQ, you have to bet. c-f otherwise. |
#12
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
value bet or c/c, i'm not folding
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
Based on the aggression factors over 600 hands, I might agree with c/f > b/f > c/c >>>>> b/c
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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If you bet will he fold QQ? [/ QUOTE ] totally an irrelevant point, he has QQ exactly never |
#15
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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I feel a bit uneasy about your read being based on a chat you had after the hand. [/ QUOTE ] i understand that that comment makes little sense because it seems like i dont have as much of a read during the hand. i felt he was solid and then after the chat it basically solidified the read, i still have the table open. me: nh him: too bad the river was the aces of spades me: u had JJ huh him: you look like a donk who 3barrels without looking at his cards me: wtf? me: im 19/15 here bro him: yeah but a little overagrro me: im gettin hands man me: 100% win at showdown here him: [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] him: your rig him: ht him: i dont have many hands of you him: so your aggro might not be converted yet him: nica allin fish: ty him: get it in with 30% him: is a great play fish: [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] him: you are either drawing dead or have less then 50% equity him: seems like everyone is braindead here him: but i guess 18 outs is not enuogh hence i know hes not a moron, and i felt this way before the hand, seeing this type of chat just made me know for sure hes not retarded |
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
I see nothing wrong with CF. What worse hand is going to bet the river?
it's between cf and bf depending on how lightly villain may call down. I don't think there's a ton of value to be had, so I'm pretty ok with cf |
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] If you bet will he fold QQ? [/ QUOTE ] totally an irrelevant point, he has QQ exactly never [/ QUOTE ] Way to see only the trees and miss the forest. |
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you bet will he fold QQ? [/ QUOTE ] totally an irrelevant point, he has QQ exactly never [/ QUOTE ] Way to see only the trees and miss the forest. [/ QUOTE ] he is right though, there basically is no way hes here with a hand like QQ. i understand your point and given river i dont think he calls me with anything i beat, right? |
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] I feel a bit uneasy about your read being based on a chat you had after the hand. [/ QUOTE ] i understand that that comment makes little sense because it seems like i dont have as much of a read during the hand. i felt he was solid and then after the chat it basically solidified the read, i still have the table open. me: nh him: too bad the river was the aces of spades me: u had JJ huh him: you look like a donk who 3barrels without looking at his cards me: wtf? me: im 19/15 here bro him: yeah but a little overagrro me: im gettin hands man me: 100% win at showdown here him: [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] him: your rig him: ht him: i dont have many hands of you him: so your aggro might not be converted yet him: nica allin fish: ty him: get it in with 30% him: is a great play fish: [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] him: you are either drawing dead or have less then 50% equity him: seems like everyone is braindead here him: but i guess 18 outs is not enuogh hence i know hes not a moron, and i felt this way before the hand, seeing this type of chat just made me know for sure hes not retarded [/ QUOTE ] seems like a moron to me. I like c/f best but if I weren't going to do that I'd b/f like 50. Also, I bet bigger on the turn. |
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
The river is a [censored] card but at the same time, its a great 3rd barrel card. I think you can b/f here pretty comfortably. Jx is about all that is calling but I think the rest of your options are pretty bad.
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